Is Consciousness external to central nervous systems?

[DeistPaladin]

Atheism has nothing to do with whether or not "souls" exist.

Sam Harris has speculated on the possibility of reincarnation while taking the stance that we simply don't know what happens to our conscious selves when we die.

I've known one other atheist who stated a positive belief in reincarnation.

The ancient Jews were theists but, judging by the OT, they didn't believe in any afterlife.

Buddhists don't believe in any god but do believe in an afterlife and reaching "Nirvana".

I've known other deists who deny the possibility of an afterlife.

Just because God exists, doesn't mean It gives a crap about preserving your consciousness.

Just because God doesn't exist doesn't mean there isn't a natural process of consciousness that survives the death of the brain, whatever that might be.

The two are different topics.

Btw, are theists unwelcome in this forum or was there another reason why he was banned?

[Paul the Human]

He was someone that had previously been banned permanently and had come back somewhat covertly. Adrian figured out who he is and... *poof*... he's gone. Other than that, he was a seriously hyperbolic asshole, but that wasn't getting him banned (yet), and even he seemed surprised by that.

[Autumnlicious]

Just to let everyone know (including Edward if he reads this), but we have banned Edward the Theist, otherwise known as the ex-member and previously *permanently banned* member 'Edward'.

Sorry Eddie, but permanent means permanent. You almost had us fooled, but linking back to the website you created the last time you were here (after your amazing conversion from atheism to theism within the space of about 2 posts) was quite a stupid thing to do. Try harder next time...or don't; you aren't welcome here.

Hell, it's about time.

[Ashendant]

he's confusing sentience with conscience, sentience is the ability to percive the surrondings

[Tiberius]

Btw, are theists unwelcome in this forum or was there another reason why he was banned?

Not at all. Theists are more than welcome here. Previously banned theists who came along, trolled, and then attempted to delete all their posts (ruining several pages of discussion on the way), aren't.

For more details see this post.

[Welsh cake]

Btw, are theists unwelcome in this forum or was there another reason why he was banned?

I personally, love debating with theists.

"Ed" aka Edward wasn't banned for being a theist, or for being a troll, he was and still is a complete and utter ass-hat for damaging and disrupting the forums by deleting his comments in a bid to permanently screw up the message board.

Thankfully we have people like Adrian who can undo the antics of such "individuals".

[SleepingDemon]

I'm not sure what i'm more upset about, the fact that this moron will undoubtedly go around spouting this nonsense to whomever is willing to listen, or that he did not respond to my direct response from him in his other thread.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

I'm not sure what i'm more upset about, the fact that this moron will undoubtedly go around spouting this nonsense to whomever is willing to listen, or that he did not respond to my direct response from him in his other thread.

Well, his views are in the minority and he even stated that he's been banned from pretty much every forum he's preached at. I'm sure he'll try, but perhaps he'll eventually settle where he'll belong. At the conservapedia forums (if they even have them).

[Edwardo Piet]

Sam Harris has speculated on the possibility of reincarnation while taking the stance that we simply don't know what happens to our conscious selves when we die.

And I agree with him. Just as I speculate on the possibility of God's existence. We don't know whether God exists or not either. I do think God almost certainly doesn't exist though, and I also find it extremely implausible to say the least that consciousness exists after death.

You can speculate on the possibility of anything.

That's what's so great about speculation and possibility.

Probability is different to possibility. Just because something is possible of course doesn't mean it's probable.

[downbeatplumb]

Below is a link to a paper I wrote detailing the reasons I believe consciousness exists external to central nervous systems. I realize atheists may have a problem with this notion but I don't understand why.

Even if consciousness is external to the CNS, that doesn't mean God exists, certainly not in the religious sense, anyway. However, it may imply that humans and animals are more than just dirt, and I know atheists hate the idea of that.

At any rate, here is my paper. It's short and easy to read. And if you have any comments on it, I'd love to read them.

http://www.veridican.com/paper1.pdf

Wow I mean really wow.

This "paper" seems to not contain one shred of suportable fact, just a mish mash of baseless and potty opinion.

I suspected it would fail, but I am surprised it was on such an epic scale.

At least it gave us an insight into your "mind" before you were sent packing.

I must admit though that I found your posts in the past fascinating, in much the same way as a fatal traffic accident on the other side of the road is.

Its appalling but you cant look away.

Goodbye and I hope you get the treatment you so obviously need, tell one of your co-workers about this paper and see how quickly the lithium comes your way.