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The hiddeness of god?
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RE: The hiddeness of god?
(August 15, 2010 at 2:04 pm)Watson Wrote: Ace-
It has everything to do with trust. Would you trust a man who, 9 times out of 10, showed that he was delusional and prone to hallucination if he said he had seen a flying purple elephant? Similarly, would you trust a species out of whom 5 billion of 6 billion claimed they had had experiences with God on anything at all? (Assuming, of course, that the claim that God is real is not true and can be proven as such.)

Good luck with the girl, though, dude!

If someone claimed to see a flying purple elephant regardless of his mental condition, I'd still need evidence. Doesn't matte who they are, it's the evidence I want. So whether it's someone very bright or thick as a wall, I'll still need that all important evidence to support the claim. Claim and support it. If you claim and fail to support it, it will be rejected. Simple really mate. If I said that there was purple bunnies below the moon surface, would you not require me to prove it?

Oh and thanks, she is beautiful. She keeps flirting with me and I'm trying to get a little closer. Hopefully I will. Wink She is online right now. She sure does make my heart go nuts! Big Grin
I don't think it matters who or how many people believe in something. It's a matter of - can they support their claims?
If I were to claim something, you would expect me to at least support it with something right? Well same thing. Theists claim there is some god up there and I'm asking for some evidence to support that. That isn't asking too much now is it?
Sheer numbers of those who believe is no where near enough to convince me of a god. Because it's not evidence.

Anyway, update, I might just meet up with her on tuesday. Might!
Seems to be going well thus far but she is extremely shy and so I better take it slow. Smile
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#22
RE: The hiddeness of god?
@Watson. I know what you are talking about and you are wrong. Just because 5 bn people claim to believe in some form of god does not count as evidence for your argument (incidentally not all religions beleive on a god (eg buddhism)). Even accepting your argument for a second by definition the vast majority of people on this planet are Beleive in the wrong god and are therefore deluded because not all religions are true. Your argument is invalid. Worse still the montheisms are all exclusivist meaning that not only are you wrong you are also in trouble when you die.

You are trying to hide behind pluralism, and are making a stronger point in favour of atheism than just the hiddeness of god. Because if god were true not only would he show himself he would also ensure the correct religion was followed.
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#23
RE: The hiddeness of god?
(August 15, 2010 at 12:40 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: If God were fair, he'd announce his existence in a booming voice from the sky in every language, and send down a host of angels to proclaim his glory. Anyone who denied his existence then would be wilfully ignorant.

How would we know it's God? Could be a super advanced alien in disguise. And they're more probable.
(August 15, 2010 at 1:15 pm)Watson Wrote: So then, here's my argument against atheism; not all the world may be Christian, but just about 5 billion people believe in some form of a God. I wonder what those people see that the atheists don't? Wink

Quit it with the Argumentum ad populum fallacy.
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#24
RE: The hiddeness of god?
But they do so love that one...even though no god has ever had a plurality.

That must be why religious shitwits are so eager to bash each others heads in?
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#25
RE: The hiddeness of god?
Christians all claim the that their religion and their bible is the absolute "truth" but it is interesting that they themselves are a house divided. Since its inception its followers have been unable to come to terms on how to interpret the scriptures and have even gone to war about it amongst themselves at times. The only reason that God is hidden is because he doesn't exist.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition

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