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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 11:50 am
(August 29, 2010 at 11:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Perhaps what is needed is an Atheist sign saying " So? Talk." He is talking. The problem is most people just aren't listening.
Here are some more signs:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/...opers.html
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Believers interpret things as 'god talking', but that is only because they already believe their god is real. According to the bible(s), your god is quite capable of actual speech. Why does he refuse to make his presence known without the need for interpreting natural events in such a way that they 'represent' him?
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RE: Church signs
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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm
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(August 30, 2010 at 11:50 am)theophilus Wrote: (August 29, 2010 at 11:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Perhaps what is needed is an Atheist sign saying " So? Talk." He is talking. The problem is most people just aren't listening.
Here are some more signs:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/...opers.html
So is there a constant flow of communication in our heads or just on occasion? How do I distinguish from my mind making up words and God? I have heard believers say (as a believer myself at one time) that the words from God will mostly be those that bring unwelcome calls to action. For instance, give a 25 percent tithe this Sunday rather than 10 percent. But that seems to be an ambiguous way to go about life. If this communication is so self-evident, why are any of us here (on this forum)? I once fervently believed he was there, but I could only take the utter silence while "listening" for so long that it became apparent to me that I was talking to the walls. And they weren't much help. Did I not do it the right way? Not believe enough? Should I have stood on leg while reciting the Lord's prayer. Maybe, just maybe then, God would have decided to speak to me personally.
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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Apparently god is indistinguishable from a migraine.
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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 6:49 pm
That could very well be the case.
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"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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RE: Church signs
August 30, 2010 at 7:06 pm
This topic is funny. You're all funny.
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RE: Church signs
September 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm
(August 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm)everythingafter Wrote: So is there a constant flow of communication in our heads or just on occasion? How do I distinguish from my mind making up words and God? The clearest way God speaks to us is through the Bible. The best way to listen to God is to spend time reading it. Here is a site that will help you if you want to learn more about the Bible:
http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/...Bible.html
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RE: Church signs
September 1, 2010 at 1:27 pm
(September 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm)theophilus Wrote: (August 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm)everythingafter Wrote: So is there a constant flow of communication in our heads or just on occasion? How do I distinguish from my mind making up words and God? The clearest way God speaks to us is through the Bible. The best way to listen to God is to spend time reading it. Here is a site that will help you if you want to learn more about the Bible:
http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/...Bible.html
God speaks to us mainly through the bible eh.
Is that the book where he comes across as a mysoganistic, genocidal, crazy control freak?
Is that the bible you are on about?
I've read it, its shit.
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RE: Church signs
September 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm
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(September 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm)theophilus Wrote: (August 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm)everythingafter Wrote: So is there a constant flow of communication in our heads or just on occasion? How do I distinguish from my mind making up words and God? The clearest way God speaks to us is through the Bible. The best way to listen to God is to spend time reading it. Here is a site that will help you if you want to learn more about the Bible:
http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/...Bible.html
Yeah, I was going to address this claim as well but didn't have time to get into it at that time. Tell me: why would an omnipotent God be limited to a book for his message to be made clear? What's so important about a book? Even if we erase the errors and contradictions and horrificity, why a book? Or a written message at all? Is God incapable of delivering his message to each of us individually and perfectly? And if some of us choose to write those thoughts down, they could all be perfectly cohesive and coherent, couldn't they? And if some deviants among us began to pervert or alter the message, he very well could stop them and ensure the message remains untarnished, couldn't he? Millions of individual accounts of his perfect message could be written and written over and over and over these 2,000 years without one single incongruency. And this would still not erase the necessity for faith. Maybe I just expect too much from an all-knowing being capable of absolutely anything.
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"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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