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Poll: Solipsism, TRUE or FALSE?
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Is the self all that can be known to exist?
RE: Is the self all that can be known to exist?
Yeah that's the point (when you say "not long" is a substitution for "not true"). "Not true" adds no meaning to the so-called statement.

Arthur Prior sums up my position very nicely and hopefully will explain it much better than I can (I'm very poor at explaining myself)

Wikipedia Wrote:Arthur Prior asserts that there is nothing paradoxical about the liar paradox. His claim (which he attributes to Charles Sanders Peirce and John Buridan) is that every statement includes an implicit assertion of its own truth. Thus, for example, the statement "It is true that two plus two equals four" contains no more information than the statement "two plus two equals four", because the phrase "it is true that..." is always implicitly there. And in the self-referential spirit of the Liar Paradox, the phrase "it is true that..." is equivalent to "this whole statement is true and ...".
Thus the following two statements are equivalent:
This statement is false.
This statement is true and this statement is false.
The latter is a simple contradiction of the form "A and not A", and hence is false. There is therefore no paradox because the claim that this two-conjunct Liar is false does not lead to a contradiction. Eugene Mills[8] and Neil Lefebvre and Melissa Schelein[9] present similar answers.

The section I bolded is the point I have been trying to make.
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RE: Is the self all that can be known to exist?
I've almost bought into your arguments, Alasdair. You've skillfully crafted them.

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Honestly I don't often find a point in being right. I would rather have the capacity for belief in a nondualistic reality and also preclude my self from equivocation, towards which, quite honestly, you have terrified me.

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(December 15, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Tangra Wrote: I've almost bought into your arguments, Alasdair. You've skillfully crafted them.

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Honestly I don't often find a point in being right. I would rather have the capacity for belief in a nondualistic reality and also preclude my self from equivocation, towards which, quite honestly, you have terrified me.

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Equivocation that is. Do recommend some reading.

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RE: Is the self all that can be known to exist?
(November 17, 2016 at 2:44 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Solipsism. Let's discuss it.

How can we be sure that we're actually discussing it?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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