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Carrier stays in US
#31
RE: Carrier stays in US
Looks like a college degree lowers your employment prospects!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#32
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(November 30, 2016 at 4:33 pm)Tonus Wrote: Looks like a college degree lowers your employment prospects!

I think it's been pretty well known that there's an over-saturation of college grads floating around the economy. Meanwhile there are 3 million jobs in transportation, commerce, and trades ripe for the taking.
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#33
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(November 30, 2016 at 4:33 pm)Tonus Wrote: Looks like a college degree lowers your employment prospects!

Or does it just increase the feeling of entitlement?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#34
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/postevery...5690381f66

Quote:Trump has endangered the jobs of workers who were previously safe in the United States. Why? Because he has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives. Even corporations that weren’t thinking of offshoring jobs will most probably be re-evaluating their stance this morning. And who would pay for the high cost for tax cuts that go to the richest businessmen in America? The working class of America

I'm glad the jobs stayed. I don't like the way it happened.
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#35
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alpha male dateline=' Wrote: Remember, my point was that what's needed is redistribution that is acceptable to both parties. Your solution is that the GOP should suck it the fuck up and agree with you. I haven't believed you were legitimately attempting to engage since then.

That's pretty hard to do when the GOP is completely against any redistribution. If anyone even tries to broach the subject conservatives start screaming "class warfare" at the top of their lungs to shut the conversation down.

The democrats may not be the best at addressing income inequality, but the GOP has been actively seeking to make it worse. They just use issues like abortion and gay marriage to get rubes to vote against their own economic interests.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#36
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In 4 years if GDP is up 4% annually, welfare claims are dropping faster under Trump than they rose under Obama, the REAL unemployment rate is down to where the FAKE one is now, peace breaks out in the middle east and in inner city neighborhoods with Democrat mayors, Trump puts a 'Souter' on the Supreme Court, Hillary allocutes to all charges in return for a Trump pardon (after declining Obama's), the rate of annual premium growth is <10% nationwide under TrumpCare® . . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#37
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ROFLOL
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#38
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We've now seen the corporate equivalent to negotiating with terrorists.

Threaten to move jobs, get huge tax breaks. In essence the people who actually pay taxes are now subsidizing these 1000 people. And of course Carrier is still moving jobs to Mexico.

Color me unimpressed.

“Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth.”
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#39
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That's a pretty common tactic for businesses, but that might be all those years in NYC that make me biased. I can recall the constant griping in the daily papers as New York and New Jersey competed for businesses by offering all kinds of tax breaks and other incentives. If Trump does this on a federal level --or gets enough states to do so locally-- we could be looking at four years where the economy looks good as the government pumps large amounts of subsidies into businesses. If Trump manages not to trip all over his own feet --or brashly dismisses his gaffes to the delight of his support base-- and somehow manages to make people forget the growth of debt over the next four years, we could be looking at a landslide in 2020.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#40
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(December 1, 2016 at 11:42 am)Kosh Wrote: In essence the people who actually pay taxes are now subsidizing these 1000 people.   

Yes...isn't that what liberals want?
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