Buyer's Remorse Thread

[Minimalist]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/...s-promised

Morons who voted for Republicans now worry they will take away their health care—as promised

"If anything changed with our insurance to make it more expensive for us, that would be a big problem," [Lisa] Botner, a community college student, said Friday at the Owsley County Public Library, where she works. "Just with the blood tests, you're talking maybe $1,000 a year without insurance."

But then ol’ Lisa Botner voted GOP. 

"I'm just a die-hard Republican," she said

Moron.

[vorlon13]

I'm sorry I didn't take Bernie more seriously . . .

[Aroura]

I'm sorry I didn't take Bernie more seriously . . .

Pretty much everyone is.  

[Minimalist]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/30...He-Will-Be

Trump Supporters Praying Banker Who Foreclosed On Their Home Won't Be Treasury Sec. He Will Be.

According to the coalition, OneWest foreclosed on more than 36,000 homeowners under Mnuchin. During that time, the FDIC made payments to OneWest totaling more $1 billion. Those payments went to the "billionaire investors of OneWest Bank," says Stein, "to cover the cost of foreclosing on working-class, everyday, American folks,"
...
Rex Schaffer, 86, and his wife Rose were among those who lost their homes, in a OneWest foreclosure. After living nearly 50 years in their home in La Puente, Calif., the Schaffers took a home equity loan but struggled to make the payments. They say they qualified three times for a government assisted modification, but OneWest failed to modify the loan.

They voted for Donald Trump, but Rose Schaffer says they're praying he doesn't choose Mnuchin as his Treasury secretary. "If he can't run his own little bank," she asks, "how can he handle a large thing for the United States?"

Then fuck you, you stupid old bastards.  Wear those silly fucking hats and Make 'Murica Great Again.

[Minimalist]

I'm sorry I didn't take Bernie more seriously . . .

Fantasy, I'm afraid.

The republicunts were lying in wait for him.


http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democ...ion-521044

2. The Myth That Sanders Would Have Won Against Trump

It is impossible to say what would have happened under a fictional scenario, but Sanders supporters often dangle polls from early summer showing he would have performed better than Clinton against Trump. They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters.

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.

Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for it—a long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.

And it goes on from there.

[Tiberius]

Of course Minimalist would think that; he was delusional regarding Clinton's success and popularity throughout the campaign.

What he seems to forget is that personal issues didn't seem to matter in this election; Trump won despite openly admitting to sexual abuse, among other personal scandals. What the people in the rust belt states cared about was a candidate who represented them. Clinton wasn't that candidate for them; Trump was, however delusional that might sound. Sanders knew how to speak to those people; he would have likely won over a number of the voters who looked at Clinton and saw "more of the same".

[Crossless2.0]

Of course Minimalist would think that; he was delusional regarding Clinton's success and popularity throughout the campaign.

What he seems to forget is that personal issues didn't seem to matter in this election; Trump won despite openly admitting to sexual abuse, among other personal scandals. What the people in the rust belt states cared about was a candidate who represented them. Clinton wasn't that candidate for them; Trump was, however delusional that might sound. Sanders knew how to speak to those people; he would have likely won over a number of the voters who looked at Clinton and saw "more of the same".

Never underestimate the potency of the word 'socialist' when wielded by conservatives in this country. Yes, Sanders would have appealed to a number of people who weren't enthralled with Clinton (I'm speaking here of voters who weren't already on board with Sanders in the primaries), but once the GOP successfully branded him as a Socialist or "worse" a vast number of working class voters would have fled like cockroaches in the light.

Such is America.

[abaris]

What he seems to forget is that personal issues didn't seem to matter in this election; Trump won despite openly admitting to sexual abuse, among other personal scandals.

Which never was a real issue. He said it himself, he could shoot someone and people would still root for him. I'm disgusted to even go there, but I think some of his die hard fans even felt encouraged by sexual abuse allegations, making him even more one of them. But that of course doesn't answer why so many women and relatively high earners voted for him.

I tend to think, intellectuals - often used in a derogative fashion these days - warning against Trump made him even more popular.

[Tiberius]

relatively high earners voted for him.

His tax plan will help those people a lot. Heck, to be honest any Republican tax plan would help people with high incomes.

[Tonus]

I don't think Sanders would have reveled in the accusations and criticisms made by his detractors, the way Trump did. Trump's 2005 remarks struck me as the end for him, and I suspect many others felt the same way. I think that Sanders would have tried to fight back against the mud that would have been slung at him. He would have had one hope-- that the young voters that came out in droves for Obama in 2008 would show up, and that a new generation of 18-29s would join them. And I just don't think they would have, as self-defeating as that would be.