A kid on my childhood street and Trump

[Minimalist]

The infrastructure will be rebuilt making jobs for inner city people getting them off of being dependent of welfare and finally free to be independent to seek self determination. The corporate tax rate will be lowered so they don't seek out countries which offer that, and actually create jobs here instead of China which has low rates and don't give a fuck about pollution.

What the fuck are you yammering on about?  In case you haven't gotten out of momma's basement in the last 60 years we don't send gangs of men out with picks and shovels to do infrastructure projects anymore.  It takes heavy equipment and you listen to the Orange Turd and suddenly think you are going to put this in the hands of people who have no clue how to do it?

And the GAO estimates that 70% of US corporations pay no taxes NOW so lowering the tax rate is not much of an incentive.

Step away from Breitbart, get your head out of your ass, and wake the fuck up, Scoobs.

[Homeless Nutter]

We already know that stuff is bad for the environment regardless of whether or not it changes the climate. If there is a cleaner way of doing things, we should try to take that approach anyway. Even if climate change wasn't a thing.

That's an extremely naive view. How is CO2 "bad for the environment regardless of whether or not it changes the climate"? If it doesn't change the climate, then who cares? It'll just get used up by plants over time. 

Humans will affect the environment, one way or another. There's just a great - and growing - number of us and we need a lot of sh*t. Saying that we just have to be doing things in "cleaner way" is meaningless, if you don't know what the "cleaner way" is. And if man-made climate change doesn't exist - a lot of people will lose jobs and a lot of money will be spent for nothing. That money could help feed the starving, or develop cancer treatments.

The reason we have smart people, who study the environment, is so that we know what the most pressing dangers are. Science id not a democracy. And stupid people - especially those with a proven track record of delusion - shouldn't have a say in this.

[Brian37]

We already know that stuff is bad for the environment regardless of whether or not it changes the climate. If there is a cleaner way of doing things, we should try to take that approach anyway. Even if climate change wasn't a thing.

That's an extremely naive view. How is CO2 "bad for the environment regardless of whether or not it changes the climate"? If it doesn't change the climate, then who cares? It'll just get used up by plants over time. 

Humans will affect the environment, one way or another. There are just a great - and growing - number of us and we need a lot of sh*t. Saying that we just have to be doing things in "cleaner way" is meaningless, if you don't know what the "cleaner way" is. And if man-made climate change doesn't exist - a lot of people will lose jobs and a lot of money will be spent for nothing. That money could help feed the starving, or develop cancer treatments.

The reason we have smart people, who study the environment, is so that we know what the most pressing dangers are. Science id not a democracy. And stupid people - especially those with a proven track record of delusion - shouldn't have a say in this.

To be fair to Catholic Lady, she is right, but for the wrong reasons. 

I have made the same arguments, not to appeal to my side, but to appeal to any pragmatism we could pull from others.

Climate change IS fact, if others want to claim it is natural and we are not causing it, YES that is bullshit, we are causing it. 

Her point is and I agree, it should not matter. Burning oil today in our age of wind, and solar and geothermal technology is like insisting on using a rotary phone in an age of cell phones. 

It does matter in that we ARE causing it. But if the climate change deniers want to claim humans are not causing it, fine, it should still remain with all our advances that we can move from less polluting and more efficient energy. A clogged toilet on the north poll is just as clogged as a clogged toilet on the equator. 

Climate change deniers are bat shit insane science deniers. But even without that fact, they should also want up to date technology. Insisting on using fossil fuels today is like insisting on using rotary phones in an age of cell phones.

[Aoi Magi]

Well... I happen to like rotary phones, they are cool.


And no, ignoring the problem and especially the cause of the problem doesn't help in coming up with a solution to the problem. When people choose to be willfully ignorant for their own convenience, pandering to them like this isn't gonna change them.

[Homeless Nutter]

To be fair to Catholic Lady, she is right, but for the wrong reasons. 

I have made the same arguments, not to appeal to my side, but to appeal to any pragmatism we could pull from others.
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Uhm, sure... If people don't want to believe, that police is more likely to shoot a black guy, than a white guy, then let's just say that "ALL lives matter", huh? Let's forget about social ills at the root of our problems, like racism, xenophobia or scientific illiteracy and let's all promise to try to be nice to each other.

You want to pander to dipsh*ts - be my guest. But at the end of the day - you're just giving them the validation they want.

Sure it'd be nice if we all could have shiny new energy-efficient technology - but that's not going to happen overnight. And if people have to chose between an iPhone and feeding their children - it's perfectly fine to go without f*cking Twitter for a while longer, if rotary phone is not going to destroy the world as we know it.

But climate change IS going to wreck havoc on the world, according to people, who know more about climate, than the uneducated peasants. And it is important, that people understand, that their children's future is at risk, and that it's not just a matter of elitist infatuation with their new toys.

[Catholic_Lady]

I'm not saying i disagree with climate change btw. I'm saying at the end of the day, pollution is bad regaedless, with or without climate change. And we should strive to take care of our planet either way.

[CapnAwesome]

Lol at Brian calling someone a toddler. You explode and curse and throw a hissy fit everytime someone even has a mild disagreement with you. I would think you'd love Trump.

[scoobysnack]

The infrastructure will be rebuilt making jobs for inner city people getting them off of being dependent of welfare and finally free to be independent to seek self determination. The corporate tax rate will be lowered so they don't seek out countries which offer that, and actually create jobs here instead of China which has low rates and don't give a fuck about pollution.

What the fuck are you yammering on about?  In case you haven't gotten out of momma's basement in the last 60 years we don't send gangs of men out with picks and shovels to do infrastructure projects anymore.  It takes heavy equipment and you listen to the Orange Turd and suddenly think you are going to put this in the hands of people who have no clue how to do it?

And the GAO estimates that 70% of US corporations pay no taxes NOW so lowering the tax rate is not much of an incentive.

Step away from Breitbart, get your head out of your ass, and wake the fuck up, Scoobs.

lol, of course it uses heavy equipment which requires skilled labor and resources. Those jobs rebuilding the infrastructure lead to more wealth in the hands of the people who work them and they will spend locally in businesses which will then create more jobs and start to reverse the income inequality. It takes entrepreneurs who take on risk and loans to create jobs for labor to benefit from.

The reason manufacturing jobs move outside of the country is due to lower taxes in those countries which reduce labor costs which offset the costs of the supply chain and logistics to bring them back for consumers here to buy. If the tax rate is lowered here, it would incentivize companies to produce goods in the US and employ Americans and save the cost to ship the goods back to the US for consumers. Plus with the brand of make American great again, it will be popular again to buy American made products. The progressive left which is marxist really always focuses on labor and not the reasons management create jobs. It's a win win for everyone! Just wait and see what prosperity looks like. 

I've noticed the progressives have a victim mindset, and it explains a lot. Ever read the 7 habits of highly effective people?

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Remember what they called it before climate change? Global warming. And before that it was global cooling. Before that it was over population. [...]

Horsesh*t. You're a moron, who doesn't understand the subject and you're simply regurgitating propaganda created by people, who make money from fossil fuels. For them - every day, that regulations on carbon emissions are postponed, is worth millions, if not billions of dollars. And you're the kind of dipsh*t, who will accept a comforting lie, over harsh reality, because at the end of the day - you don't give a sh*t what kind of world your children will have to live in. Hey, Jezzles is going to come whisk you all away, to Neverland, any minute now, isn't he? No need to worry about this sh*thole planet, then...

I'll bet you don't believe cigarettes cause cancer either, right? Because for over half a century tobacco companies used the same tactics fuel companies are using now, pretending that there was still a debate over  it, when there wasn't, so that addicts could lie to themselves and keep buying their sh*t.

There was never human-caused "global cooling", that 99% of scientists agreed on, like they do on climate change. It was a fantasy, that people used to like to read about, so newspapers wrote about it for a while - just like they did with, say, Satanic cults in the 80's, that were never a thing. You're confusing scientific consensus, with popular opinions of uneducated morons, like yourself.

The cooling of the atmosphere, due to clouds of heavy particles emitted by industrial chimneys, that would block out light, thus lowering temperatures underneath - that was something scientists knew about back in the 70's, just like they knew about the possibility of global warming due to greenhouse gasses. But climate science was much less developed 50 years ago (A-DUUUUUUH!), most of the relevant data was still to be collected, so it wasn't clear which of the ecological problems caused by growing industrial pollution were going to be the most damaging half a century later. And over those 50 years we solved some of the problems, like improved filters on industrial chimneys, therefore making "global cooling" a thing of the past.

The same industrial emissions would also cause acid rains - but I'll bet you don't believe in those either, because you don't hear about them anymore, huh? And you probably think polio is a myth, because vaccines work so well...

Science and technology make progress and solve problems - that doesn't mean we won't have new problems to overcome. And stupid people like you only stand in the way, because you only care about your own convenience.

You're an imbecile and a dangerous one. I hope your children and your grand-children will adequately thank you one day. I hope they put you in a home, right on the coast somewhere. In a basement...

I'm surprised you didn't bring up bigfoot hahaha! Try not to go into a hysterical conniption fit when someone questions your dogma. I have a hurt feelings report for you to fill out and a nice box of tissues for your tears if you felt triggered lol. And then you go off on some tangent rant to top it off. Very comical!

I'm all for clean energy, but realize energy is what creates the life style we have in the modern world. Fossil fuels led to the industrial revolution and modern world and I know you and everyone in the world are enjoying the benefits even if you don't support them. Our infrastructure is built around fossil fuels that if dismantled would be devastating loss of economic freedom and life. Yes I actually do believe pollution does affect climate negatively, and we should work for ways to reduce it.

That being said, the climate alarmists have been consistently wrong on their models of doom and gloom. When you research the history of it you start to understand it's a means to an end. The end is technocracy where unelected officials make decisions based on the science they believe at the time to affect the lives of the public. This is why the left has everything inverted. Before they fought for the little people, and now they are united with the establishment thinking they are on the winning team, when they are actually the biggest losers in the greatest swindle in history. Deceived useful idiots.

The math is wrong, simply put, which is why the models fail to deliver the results they should

[GUBU]

Trump doesn't even have the support of the GOP. He's an outsider who used to be a democrat. The DNC and now the progressive left got everyone's panties in a bunch over a lot of inflated hysterics based on a lot of misinterpreted info. He's not going reverse gay marriage as much as LGBTQ+ community says he hates gays. He's not going to round up Muslims. He will however do something about illegal aliens, but only focus on the MS13 gang types and ones that are felons.

What the plan is from the insiders I listen to that know him simply making the US competitive again. That means reversing the horrendous trade deficit we have. Using our oil reserves to become energy independent again reversing the Kissinger deal made in the 70's to buy from OPEC nations while forcing OPEC nations to sell oil only in dollars. As they start to sell in other currencies that deal is not working out. It was created to make other countries invest in our Tbills prior. The infrastructure will be rebuilt making jobs for inner city people getting them off of being dependent of welfare and finally free to be independent to seek self determination. The corporate tax rate will be lowered so they don't seek out countries which offer that, and actually create jobs here instead of China which has low rates and don't give a fuck about pollution. You see how much smog is in China these days. Prosperity is ahead, and the end of the new world order and technocracy of corporate unelected bureaucrats making decisions without public approval is over.

We are on the verge of ending globalism and entering a stage of interdependence at the level of the nation state.

I'm certainly delighted and relieved to learn that you know what Trump is and isn't going to do, especially since he doesn't seem altogether sure himself.

Boru

Oh Trump knows what he's doing. He's going to make Trump businesses profitable for the first time in over a generation, and he doesn't care that he'll have to sell out the US to do it.

[CapnAwesome]

The infrastructure will be rebuilt making jobs for inner city people getting them off of being dependent of welfare and finally free to be independent to seek self determination. The corporate tax rate will be lowered so they don't seek out countries which offer that, and actually create jobs here instead of China which has low rates and don't give a fuck about pollution.

What the fuck are you yammering on about?  In case you haven't gotten out of momma's basement in the last 60 years we don't send gangs of men out with picks and shovels to do infrastructure projects anymore.  It takes heavy equipment and you listen to the Orange Turd and suddenly think you are going to put this in the hands of people who have no clue how to do it?

And the GAO estimates that 70% of US corporations pay no taxes NOW so lowering the tax rate is not much of an incentive.

Step away from Breitbart, get your head out of your ass, and wake the fuck up, Scoobs.

Why is it that some people feel like it's an intellectual strength to not read conservative news. I read Breitbart, I also read the Huffington Post. It's called having a diverse and well informed opinion.