The Crusades: an ongoing psychological disorder?

[Mr Greene]

Back in the past, the ruler of the Eastern Roman empire asked the European church in Rome for help against the Turks who were practicing the new religion called 'Islam'.

1st Crusade; 1095

Arrival of the Turks in Anatolia; 1241

Surely the Turks were still on the other side of Asia during the period you identify?

Also "Demonetization"? They had a barter system imposed?

[WinterHold]

[vorlon13]

[Cato]

Atlas just claimed that 9/11 was an inside job in a thread about the Crusades. So if I get this straight, we are expected to adhere to his interpretation of conflicts 1000 years ago, but he can't even get well known facts straight for a well documented event that happened just 15 years ago.

[WinterHold]

Atlas just claimed that 9/11 was an inside job in a thread about the Crusades. So if I get this straight, we are expected to adhere to his interpretation of conflicts 1000 years ago, but he can't even get well known facts straight for a well documented event that happened just 15 years ago.

Yes, because pictures of 9/11 and memes with a zeus-like figure started to spawn, duh !

[chimp3]

For those unfortunates who are still living with the shadows of the Crusades - unable to come to terms with the barbarity of the Abrahamic religions - there is a solution. Drop the belief in your fictional sky daddy and see the world in a modern light. As an atheist I feel no affiliation with any believers iron age warfare rationales. Trying to avoid the crossfire and spread the good news that we are all related genetically is all I can contribute. There is no god, nothing to kill or die for.

[downbeatplumb]

[ApeNotKillApe]

Clearly because we're jealous of your faction being so blameless.

I don't see a:
1-Single centralized country/alliance/republic...hell....kingdom/...the heck; CALIPHATE>< that gathers what you consider to be "my faction" under one banner.
2-Single leader/government that represents "my faction".

So a reality check; ape; we are cut down into so many tiny factions, some call themselves "Sunnies", others call themselves "Shia" -Not Shia Labouf-,...etc, and you have me, I have no faction I just love the Quran, and God is my lord.

So please..what the hell do you mean by "faction"??
You're the one having a "European Union", or "UN", or "Russia", or "China", or the "UK".

And no, ISIS is not my cup of tea. They suck.

I see, you inject nuance the moment it becomes convenient for you. You're allowed to say Europeans are this and Arabs were that but when I do the same, suddenly things aren't that simple.
Suddenly it's not fair to make a blanket judgement of entire communities, not because it's unreasonable to do so, but because it breaks your narrative.

[chimp3]

Litmus test for peaceful religion: 

Stand in the middle of Mecca, Tel Aviv, or the Vatican and say out loud "I am an atheist!".  See what happens.

[WinterHold]

For those unfortunates who are still living with the shadows of the Crusades - unable to come to terms with the barbarity of the Abrahamic religions - there is a solution. Drop the belief in your fictional sky daddy and see the world in a modern light. As an atheist I feel no affiliation with any believers iron age warfare rationales. Trying to avoid the crossfire and spread the good news that we are all related genetically is all I can contribute. There is no god, nothing to kill or die for.

One thing you failed to see, is that most humans are not like you: they don't "think" about what to believe; rather they are born into it.

Christians are Christians because their daddy was, Sunnies are Sunnies because their mommy was, many of them drug themselves with social media, alcohol or cigarettes and social life, believing in the religion the society gives them since birth.

Atheists for example, are so little in number because of the above fact. People in general follow; they don't think. If they gave it a thought, our world would've been a different place; that's for sure.

The good aspects of modern life were mostly enforced only by the deterring power of nukes, along with the devastation of modern wars; still, you can see the empty minded humans shooting guns left and right, causing havoc as they go.

People don't think. I will not care about the history of the pope or Saladin that much, if it wasn't for the evidence of the havoc that once rang the bells of this region; you can even track down older wars -like the Sunni/Shia conflict, or the American white/black issues.

The modern world is at a post-world war state of silence. Einstein said it: