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MTV news.
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RE: MTV news.
(December 26, 2016 at 7:36 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 26, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't like the video. I think it's condescending and stupid. I also think this is precisely the type of sjw crap that helped get us Donald Trump, which i dont appreciate bc i dont like him one bit. Whether the video got taken down or not (I heard it's back up) doesn't change my opinion of it.

I don't like it either. But I think the idea that this sort of thing is what got Trump elected is silly. I'd think the evisceration of the middle-class, alongside the Dems putting up such an awful candidate, did the trick.

I'm sure that was all a big part of it as well.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#22
RE: MTV news.
(December 24, 2016 at 2:38 am)paulpablo Wrote: I agree with homeless nutter that it's fairly ludicrous to say white people got their voices heard because of Trump, anyone with internet access can get their voice heard if they have enough popular support online these days.

But it was just the tone of the post which makes fun of the idea that a white person could be oppressed which is why I added it to my piece of art.[...]

LOL... Of course a white guy could be oppressed. Poor people of any race and ethnicity are sh*t upon, all over the world. What stupid people do (like the Social Justice Whiteys, that voted for the Orange Rape-Monkey and are complaining about "oppression"), is confuse race with social class. Because nobody - especially in US - wants to admit, that there even is such a thing as social class, and that the majority of people, regardless of race, or ethnicity - are pretty much f*cked in terms of options in life, because they were born into the lower class.

Angry white-trash Americans get p*ssed off, because they think they're being called "privileged" by some college kids, while they don't feel that way. Well, that's capitalism - if you're a loser, you only have yourself (and your loser ancestors) to blame. Of course - those angry white-trash people never tried being a minority and they only know the reality of such life from all sorts of bullsh*t propaganda on Fucks News, about "welfare queens" and "coke-crazed n******s raping white women"...

The point is - you get sh*t upon way more, if - on top of being poor - you also happen to be a minority, especially the racial kind, because skin color is obvious to even the most dimwitted among us (again - like the Drumpf*cks).

And anyone, that considers some dumb college kids expressing some dumb opinions in some dumb videos to be "oppression" - instead of checking his/her privilege - needs to get his/her head checked. For retardation...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#23
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 8:39 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: For retardation...

That's not very PC of you. Shy
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#24
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 8:49 am)Bella Morte Wrote: That's not very PC of you.  Shy

Oh, no! What's going to happen now? Am I going to be "oppressed", by some college kids? My life will be forever ruined! RUINED! Rolleyes
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#25
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 8:55 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Oh, no! What's going to happen now? Am I going to be "oppressed", by some college kids? My life will be forever ruined! RUINED!  Rolleyes

What are you even on about?
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#26
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 8:58 am)Bella Morte Wrote: What are you even on about?

You pointed out, that something I stated may be found offensive, by someone on the internet. By the logic of Social Justice Whiteys, that means - I'm being "oppressed", for my unpopular views. I can't even say "retardation" these days, without being harassed. There's probably even a video somewhere, where a fat girl with blue hair explains, why I shouldn't use that word. It's PC gone MAD, I tell you!...

In other words - I'm using sarcasm, in order to make fun of dumb c*nts, who mistake their social media feeds for reality.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#27
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 9:14 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(December 28, 2016 at 8:58 am)Bella Morte Wrote: What are you even on about?

You pointed out, that something I stated may be found offensive, by someone on the internet. By the logic of Social Justice Whiteys, that means - I'm being "oppressed", for my unpopular views. I can't even say "retardation" these days, without being harassed. There's probably even a video somewhere, where a fat girl with blue hair explains, why I shouldn't use that word. It's PC gone MAD, I tell you!...

In other words - I'm using sarcasm, in order to make fun of dumb c*nts, who mistake their social media feeds for reality.

Okay.

Well, you have fun!
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#28
RE: MTV news.
(December 28, 2016 at 9:19 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Okay.

Well, you have fun!

I always do... Big Grin
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#29
RE: MTV news.
I'd just like to point out that condescending lectures like this are part of why Trump won: a lot of white voters are sick and tired of progressives treating them like this. News flash: white people are the MAJORITY. You don't get anything done in a democratic society by pissing off the majority.

Yeah, I get it. There are issues of racial and gender and ethnic inequality in America. I get it more than most people. The issues are (mostly) good issues and they deserve to be talked about. Hell, they NEED to be talked about.... but that doesn't justify being an asshole when talking about them.

Try this instead: Instead of lectures, have conversations. Don't talk TO people, talk WITH people. Hear what they have to say and respond to that. So far, I think that's what has been missing in a lot of progressive talking points and it's the reason those talking points aren't especially attractive to a lot of people. Because, when you do respond to someone but you don't try to understand their perspective, when you don't try to see where they're coming from, you're likely just setting up a straw man.
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#30
RE: MTV news.
(December 29, 2016 at 9:55 am)TaraJo Wrote: I'd just like to point out that condescending lectures like this are part of why Trump won: a lot of white voters are sick and tired of progressives treating them like this. News flash: white people are the MAJORITY. You don't get anything done in a democratic society by pissing off the majority.

Yeah, I get it. There are issues of racial and gender and ethnic inequality in America. I get it more than most people. The issues are (mostly) good issues and they deserve to be talked about. Hell, they NEED to be talked about.... but that doesn't justify being an asshole when talking about them.

Try this instead: Instead of lectures, have conversations. Don't talk TO people, talk WITH people. Hear what they have to say and respond to that. So far, I think that's what has been missing in a lot of progressive talking points and it's the reason those talking points aren't especially attractive to a lot of people. Because, when you do respond to someone but you don't try to understand their perspective, when you don't try to see where they're coming from, you're likely just setting up a straw man.

My thoughts exactly.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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