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Rogue One
#21
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm)Aroura Wrote: Also, a few minutes into the film, I had a big forehead slap moment.

I had mine the next day. It didn't sit well with me that there was not a single Bothan amongst the infiltrators - then I was informed that my faulty memory notwithstanding, it was the data on the *second* Death Star that many Bothans died to steal.

Yes, I turned in my geek card.
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#22
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(December 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm)Aroura Wrote: I also appreciate how diverse the cast was, without feeling forced. Speaking of, the other characters I loved were Imwe and his buddy. I adore Donny Yen, and was thrilled to see him in a Star Wars film. His blind walk and subsequent death was actually pretty cool and touching as well.

That was his name, huh? The characters never really had a chance to develop too much. They felt secondary to the story (Force Awakens had a problem with the opposite) Here are the names I gave them in my head:

Mary Sue
Oberyn Martell
Sassy Robot (actually, K was a pretty easy one to recall)
Mind-Raped Pilot
Blind Dude
Attila the Hunn with a Gun
Director Keurig

Ha! That's hilarious! I agree that I learned almost none of their names during the film either. Even the lead, I was thinking of her as the engineers daughter for the first 30 minutes or so. She wasnt good enough at anything to be a Mary Sue. I did get her name eventually, as it was nice and easy, Jyn, but in my head I was hearing Jen (as in short for Jenny) for the whole film.

Attila the hun with a gun is funny!

I didn't know Imwe's name until I looked it up after the film. For the duration of the film, I thought of him as blind Donny Yen, lol. He's the only character I liked enough to go find his name afterward.

I actually remember when they are climbing the stupid data tower, and the guy falls, and Jyn/Jen calls out "Cassian!" I thought, oh, the lead males name is Cassian! Took me 2 hours to get it, lol.

I still have no idea what is the name of the pilot, the blond general, or Atilla the hun with a gun.

Yup, K was the only character aside from Jen (who's name I had wrong for the whole film) that I got before the end. Even the extremist guy I just though of as terrorist Forrest Whittaker.

(December 29, 2016 at 3:39 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm)Aroura Wrote: Also, a few minutes into the film, I had a big forehead slap moment.

I had mine the next day. It didn't sit well with me that there was not a single Bothan amongst the infiltrators - then I was informed that my faulty memory notwithstanding, it was the data on the *second* Death Star that many Bothans died to steal.

Yes, I turned in my geek card.

Ha, this exact thing happened to my husband as well! As we got in the car to go home after the film, he was like, where were all the Bothans? When we got home, he looked it up, because I couldn't remember which film that line was in either, and we found out that was the second death star.
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#23
RE: Rogue One
I absolutely loved this picture. It crushes the prequels, and is totally at the level with the original trilogy, in my book.

The only thing I wasn't thrilled about was the llimited female representation. With Jyn and Mon Mothma (a minor character), there were two. If I'm to be exceptionally generous and include the five minutes at the start with Jyn's mother, we can squeeze it up to three. But the entire main cast were all guys plus Jyn (and a droid with a male voice), so that was somewhat disappointing. Jyn wasn't even that strong a character, and though she theoretically may be considered the lead, she didn't really get that much more focus than the others.

However I appreciate the attempt at diversity, which was more than most productions have, even if it couldn't quite measure up to wonderfulness that was Episode VII.
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#24
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Thal Wrote: I absolutely loved this picture. It crushes the prequels, and is totally at the level with the original trilogy, in my book.

The only thing I wasn't thrilled about was the llimited female representation. With Jyn and Mon Mothma (a minor character), there were two. If I'm to be exceptionally generous and include the five minutes at the start with Jyn's mother, we can squeeze it up to three. But the entire main cast were all guys plus Jyn (and a droid with a male voice), so that was somewhat disappointing. Jyn wasn't even that strong a character, and though she theoretically may be considered the lead, she didn't really get that much more focus than the others.

However I appreciate the attempt at diversity, which was more than most productions have, even if it couldn't quite measure up to wonderfulness that was Episode VII.


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#25
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(December 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm)Aroura Wrote: I also appreciate how diverse the cast was, without feeling forced. Speaking of, the other characters I loved were Imwe and his buddy. I adore Donny Yen, and was thrilled to see him in a Star Wars film. His blind walk and subsequent death was actually pretty cool and touching as well.

That was his name, huh? The characters never really had a chance to develop too much. They felt secondary to the story  (Force Awakens had a problem with the opposite)   Here are the names I gave them in my head:

Mary Sue
Oberyn Martell
Sassy Robot (actually, K was a pretty easy one to recall)
Mind-Raped Pilot
Blind Dude
Attila the Hunn with a Gun
Director Keurig

Read the novel

And no she's not a mary sue

If they had the technology to build an impenetrable shield around an entire planet, why didn't the first death star get one?

Because the shield isn't imperial tech they can manipulate it they just don't know how to build it from scratch

Quote:If they had the technology to build an impenetrable shield around an entire planet, why didn't the first death star get one?


Because the shield isn't imperial tech they can manipulate it they just don't know how to build it from scratch
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#26
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 7:19 pm)Orochi Wrote: Because the shield isn't imperial tech they can manipulate it they just don't know how to build it from scratch

Or, because it's just a movie and no one really gives a damn about relativity, the conservation laws and/or the work-energy theorem.  I have to give the script writers and producers credit, though, with respect to the last film and the star-sucking planet, which I didn't really understand and/or realize until I got home later in the evening after seeing it.  The intense, fantastic speech by the Imperial officer was too much of a distraction to the inevitable physics contemplation that would take place later on.  I can excuse FTL travel, but not the abrogation of universal gravitation.
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#27
RE: Rogue One
(December 29, 2016 at 11:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 29, 2016 at 7:19 pm)Orochi Wrote: Because the shield isn't imperial tech they can manipulate it they just don't know how to build it from scratch

Or, because it's just a movie and no one really gives a damn about relativity, the conservation laws and/or the work-energy theorem.  I have to give the script writers and producers credit, though, with respect to the last film and the star-sucking planet, which I didn't really understand and/or realize until I got home later in the evening after seeing it.  The intense, fantastic speech by the Imperial officer was too much of a distraction to the inevitable physics contemplation that would take place later on.  I can excuse FTL travel, but not the abrogation of universal gravitation.

no really that's the reason the novel states the empire found the shield tech they did make it that's why they can't reproduce it your question was about why the deathstar doesn't have the shield that's why

as for star killer base keber crystal ancient sith tech pretty much covers this
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#28
RE: Rogue One
As much as I enjoyed the movies, we shouldn't be expected to read the books to understand important details of the story Rolleyes
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#29
RE: Rogue One
(December 30, 2016 at 1:02 am)Orochi Wrote:
(December 29, 2016 at 11:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Or, because it's just a movie and no one really gives a damn about relativity, the conservation laws and/or the work-energy theorem.  I have to give the script writers and producers credit, though, with respect to the last film and the star-sucking planet, which I didn't really understand and/or realize until I got home later in the evening after seeing it.  The intense, fantastic speech by the Imperial officer was too much of a distraction to the inevitable physics contemplation that would take place later on.  I can excuse FTL travel, but not the abrogation of universal gravitation.

no really that's the reason the novel states the empire found the shield tech they did make it that's why they can't reproduce it your question was about why the deathstar doesn't have the shield that's why

as for star killer base keber crystal ancient sith tech pretty much covers this

Hee, hee...the work-energy theorem still applies:

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And, so, no star-sucking planets, but hey, it's just a movie/novel!  Don't forget that a "cloaking device" was mentioned very briefly in Star Wars:  A New Hope!
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#30
RE: Rogue One
(December 28, 2016 at 10:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I have seen all of the Star Wars films (who hasn't?),  

Tom Holland.
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