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Escaping Catholic Totalitarianism
RE: Escaping Catholic Totalitarianism
(January 2, 2017 at 10:31 am)Redoubtable Wrote: Yes, I agree with your points, but I guess it's just frustrating when you know the serpentine way certain Catholics try to use and slither out of a controversy. Good point in bringing up the Ordinary Magisterium because even practicing Catholics don't know what it is or that it carries an aspect of infallibility also; they just think the Pope is infallible and don't recognize it anywhere else. I think bringing up the Ordinary Magisterium and its collective silence, acceptance, or teaching on a particular issue is the strongest argument in favor of showing serious moral and doctrinal discontinuity in the Church.

It's difficult to say what someone like Francis truly believes deep down.  Clearly, he does not want a formal schism within the Catholic Church and he wants to maintain the political influence of the Papacy in the World.  At the same time he wants to move the Church in a direction that secularizes it even more.  To do this, he uses the classic thesis/antithesis dialectic:

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Most Catholics do not care; in fact, most approve of Francis and what he is doing.  For them, Catholicism is a pro forma form of religion, something that they were born into or married into.

As I said, I simply have better things to do with my time and money!  My niece, a Catholic, decided not to get married in a Catholic ceremony (I was not invited to her wedding, though), but instead decided to get married at a "marry barn" (or whatever); some outfit that sells very nice marriage ceremonies to couples!
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)

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