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I've changed the title from "Fucking SNP" to simply "SNP".

Anyway, in the news...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017...rexit-deal

Nicola Sturgeon has said a second independence referendum will become a “legitimate, almost necessary” step unless Scotland secures a special relationship with the European Union before article 50 is triggered.

The first minister used a speech in Edinburgh to accuse Theresa May’s government of putting the settlement that established the Scottish parliament under “grave threat” by rejecting Sturgeon’s calls for a special deal.

Sturgeon earlier wrote in an article for the Times that her moves towards a second referendum were prompted by the prime minister’s “sheer intransigence”, in a further effort to push May into fresh concessions.

May is under pressure from within her cabinet to counter Sturgeon’s agitation, increasing expectations the prime minister could set out what Scotland will gain from Brexit when she addresses the Scottish Conservative annual conference in Glasgow on Friday.

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Maybe they voted to remain in the UK because they liked being in the EU?

I would think a person who wanted the UK to be sovereign and seperate entity would support other groups rights to the same thing.

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Maybe they voted to remain in the UK because they liked being in the EU?

That wouldn't make much sense though. An independent Scotland in the European Union has been their goal for a while now.

I would think a person who wanted the UK to be sovereign and seperate entity would support other groups rights to the same thing.

If there is another referendum and the majority votes to leave, then so be it. I will just have to accept it and move on regardless of my opinion. That's life.

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The No campaign in the last referendum used the threat of being pulled out of the EU so 55% voted to stay in the UK. 62% of people in Scotland actually want to stay in the EU as we can tell from the Brexit vote. So the Scots voted to stay in the UK who then decided to leave the EU. So the trick is now to convince those that voted no to Scottish independence but who want to stay in the EU to vote yes instead.

The problem I see it is in inverse to Northern Ireland. In NI in two years time they're faced with having to show passports when they travel south, maybe as part of their daily commute etc. So there is a real pressure on them to avoid this by unifying. There is also the fear of the troubles starting again with terrorism if there is a border put up again.

In Scotland though, people would be voting to erect a border where there wasn't one before by voting yes. One thing mitigating this if that it's not so built up around the border between England and Scotland with most people living in the central belt. If Ireland can unify first then this will definitely help the independence movement.

Thanks for changing the thread title Bella.

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Thanks for changing the thread title Bella.

You're welcome. After thinking about it for while, the original title was a bit unfair. The SNP have actually done some things that I agree with.

There is also the fear of the troubles starting again with terrorism if there is a border put up again.

But you could argue that the Troubles could start again if Northern Ireland joins the Republic, no?