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Something Just for the AF family
#11
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
(January 25, 2017 at 7:11 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(January 25, 2017 at 6:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Stuff like "all angels have wings" and "the sabbath has always been on a Sunday" are statements / claims not arguments.

"Prove to me that God exists" is a challenge, not an argument.
How would you define an argument?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

Generally speaking you need a number of premises and then a conclusion.
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#12
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
Maybe this will take more than a couple days to do a thorough job. The information you guys have given me is probably just the tip of the iceberg in the subject of logic, but it's has given me a good idea of how this should be. I'll come back when I feel I have something presentable.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#13
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
Now, how close is this to the mark?

http://rhondadenisejohnson.com/LogicChal...eform.html
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#14
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
Where's the Hasty Generalization option for the first one? Hehe.

Haven't finished the test yet.

Some of them I feel are more than one fallacy or I have to put "none of the above" or "non-sequitur" because I can't find what I'm looking for.

"This came after that so this happened because of that"

Not heard of this fallacy before, lol.

I'm sure there must be a name for that fallacy. It's basically mistaking a temporal sequence for causation.

"We know God exists because the Bible says so. what the Bible says about God is true because the Bible is the inspired word of God"

This does eventually beg the question of how either of those premises are true but more specifically it's circular reasoning. Begging the question as a logical fallacy would be more like "The Bible is true because it is." or "The Bible is true because it's accurate".... but that begs the question of why its accurate "Oh it's accurate because it's not wrong".

If you assume a premise based on nothing and answer it with another premise that is identical to or synonymous with the first one then that's the Question Begging fallacy. If you answer it with a premise that may be completely different but then answer that premise with the first one then that's the Circular Reasoning fallacy.

"Scientists want us to believe complex life just magically put itself together. I tell you, if I put the pieces of a watch in a bag with a few sparks of electricity and shake it up and down for a few billion years, I will not hear it tick. So evolution is absurd."

This one would be False Analogy.

"Our Church takes hot meals to the elderly and the sick every Thanksgiving and we have a special offering for the Meals on Wheels program in our town. We shouldn't be judged negatively because of a few bad apples."

This one is a form of the Nivana Fallacy. More specifically this particular form of the Nirvana Fallacy is like the Perfect Solution Fallacy but it's in a negative rather than positive form. Basically "Oh we're not completely bad therefore we're not bad at all" is the same form as "If we can't find the perfect solution then we shouldn't bother at all".

"The Bible says Jesus hair was as white as lamb's wool. Lamb's wool is kinky. So Jesus was black."

All I can say about this one is LOL.

I'm guessing you don't mean "kinky" like the way I usually use the word, lol.

I can't fault this one:

"If you didn't vote for Clinton you're a Trump supporter."

It is indeed False Dilemma/ False Dichotomy.
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#15
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
Anyone else want to comment on the new test?

http://rhondadenisejohnson.com/LogicChal...eform.html
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#16
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
As you guys may (or may not) know, I've been working very closely with robvalue to improve this project. He has now given me the green light  and thinks it's ready for launching.  

Please take a look and if anyone sees more ways it can be improved let me know and it shall be done. Otherwise, you can post the link or tell me to post it.

http://rhondadenisejohnson.com/LogicChallenge/
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#17
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
That's cool that you're doing this, Rhonda  Heart

Just one thing...

Could someone PLEASE fix the "damily" to family already? My eye is twitching!

Anyway, I'll check it out. Thanks for doing this for us Smile
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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#18
RE: Something Just for the AF damily
(February 25, 2017 at 5:19 am)Mamacita Wrote: That's cool that you're doing this, Rhonda  Heart

Just one thing...

Could someone PLEASE fix the "damily" to family already? My eye is twitching!

Anyway, I'll check it out. Thanks for doing this for us Smile

No, we can't fix it.

Tongue
Dying to live, living to die.
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#19
RE: Something Just for the AF family
(February 25, 2017 at 5:19 am)Mamacita Wrote: That's cool that you're doing this, Rhonda  Heart

Just one thing...

Could someone PLEASE fix the "damily" to family already? My eye is twitching!

Anyway, I'll check it out. Thanks for doing this for us Smile

I agree.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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#20
RE: Something Just for the AF family
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"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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