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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 2:11 am
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(January 28, 2017 at 10:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Cephus Wrote: Where did you get the idea that we owe anyone anything? Anyone we allow to come here should be for the good of America, not so we can put them on the welfare roles.
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How many illegal aliens are on the welfare rolls?
A ton of them? None should be.
(January 28, 2017 at 10:52 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Cephus Wrote: Where did you get the idea that we owe anyone anything? Anyone we allow to come here should be for the good of America, not so we can put them on the welfare roles. What makes you think I want to pay for all the kids you want to squirt out? Just because your a North American I owe you something? Pay for your own kids and dont pick on poor people struggling to survive. That is all I am saying.
I do pay for my own kids, thanks. Maybe if they were more responsible, they wouldn't be struggling to survive.
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 2:35 am
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 5:27 am
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Last time I checked, you needed a social security number to even apply for welfare. And you needed one for each member of your household. Illegals certainly don't have ss numbers, so why is this even an issue for those that seem butthurt over it? They can't get assistance that way. Charities might help, but that's short term.
(January 29, 2017 at 2:11 am)Cephus Wrote: (January 28, 2017 at 10:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: How many illegal aliens are on the welfare rolls?
A ton of them? None should be.
(January 28, 2017 at 10:52 pm)chimp3 Wrote: What makes you think I want to pay for all the kids you want to squirt out? Just because your a North American I owe you something? Pay for your own kids and dont pick on poor people struggling to survive. That is all I am saying.
I do pay for my own kids, thanks. Maybe if they were more responsible, they wouldn't be struggling to survive.
Wow. Ignorant much? I'm American. My other half is as well and we struggle. Neither one of us is irresponsible. I'm quite sure lumping illegals in that category is both a baseless assumption and just flat out rude. Many people struggle, regardless of where they come from. That doesn't mean they are all irresponsible.
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January 29, 2017 at 5:33 am
Maybe trump is just what some people need to understand what real struggle for survival is.
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 11:53 am
(January 29, 2017 at 5:27 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Last time I checked, you needed a social security number to even apply for welfare. And you needed one for each member of your household. Illegals certainly don't have ss numbers, so why is this even an issue for those that seem butthurt over it? They can't get assistance that way. Charities might help, but that's short term.
I worked with a handful of illegal immigrants in the past, and they had social security numbers, whether they were real ones or not I don't know. Most said a lawyer helped them out one way or another. Though they never collected welfare or any other government help as far as I know. The ones that I knew lived 10 to a 2 bed room apartment, worked 2 jobs, and save as much as possible. One did tell us that some one offered him some aide ( brain is foggy so I forget which department they were from), but he ended up kicking him out of his house because he didn't want a government handout. I'm not saying it's happening or not happening, just sharing what I know from my experience.
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January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm
(January 29, 2017 at 5:27 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Last time I checked, you needed a social security number to even apply for welfare. And you needed one for each member of your household. Illegals certainly don't have ss numbers, so why is this even an issue for those that seem butthurt over it? They can't get assistance that way. Charities might help, but that's short term.
(January 29, 2017 at 2:11 am)Cephus Wrote: A ton of them? None should be.
I do pay for my own kids, thanks. Maybe if they were more responsible, they wouldn't be struggling to survive.
Wow. Ignorant much? I'm American. My other half is as well and we struggle. Neither one of us is irresponsible. I'm quite sure lumping illegals in that category is both a baseless assumption and just flat out rude. Many people struggle, regardless of where they come from. That doesn't mean they are all irresponsible.
Illegal aliens get more welfare than Americans, what are you talking about? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Illegal...id/727875/
And yes, there are a lot of irresponsible people out there who try to get things that they simply have not earned or cannot afford, simply because they have an emotional attachment to them. Like it or not, there's nothing rude about reality. Some people desperately need to figure that out.
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm
(January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Cephus Wrote: (January 29, 2017 at 5:27 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Last time I checked, you needed a social security number to even apply for welfare. And you needed one for each member of your household. Illegals certainly don't have ss numbers, so why is this even an issue for those that seem butthurt over it? They can't get assistance that way. Charities might help, but that's short term.
Wow. Ignorant much? I'm American. My other half is as well and we struggle. Neither one of us is irresponsible. I'm quite sure lumping illegals in that category is both a baseless assumption and just flat out rude. Many people struggle, regardless of where they come from. That doesn't mean they are all irresponsible.
Illegal aliens get more welfare than Americans, what are you talking about? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Illegal...id/727875/
And yes, there are a lot of irresponsible people out there who try to get things that they simply have not earned or cannot afford, simply because they have an emotional attachment to them. Like it or not, there's nothing rude about reality. Some people desperately need to figure that out. That afticle says the children receiving the welfare are natural born U.S. citizens. Not illegals.
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 4:14 pm
(January 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Cephus Wrote: Illegal aliens get more welfare than Americans, what are you talking about? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Illegal...id/727875/
And yes, there are a lot of irresponsible people out there who try to get things that they simply have not earned or cannot afford, simply because they have an emotional attachment to them. Like it or not, there's nothing rude about reality. Some people desperately need to figure that out. That afticle says the children receiving the welfare are natural born U.S. citizens. Not illegals.
Actually, it says that illegals are using their natural born children to receive benefits. And they do steal identities to get benefits as well. How many illegals are using someone else's SS# to work in jobs they have no business having?
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 4:45 pm
(January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Cephus Wrote: Illegal aliens get more welfare than Americans, what are you talking about? http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Illegal...id/727875/
Newsmax? Really? Why not Breitbart?
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RE: Walls
January 29, 2017 at 5:01 pm
It's not just the physical walls being proposed that are a problem.
Trump and his policies are also putting up symbolic walls around and within America.
This will take decades to clean up.
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