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To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
#51
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 10:33 am)Jesster Wrote: You should try to step outside sometime.

"Greatness" without context means nothing to me. Give me some of your sweet context, MK.

Ok value, let's work with the word value?

Do you deem any human to have a great value?

I was offered seventeen camels for my wife when I went to Turkey, does that count?



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#52
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok value, let's work with the word value?

Do you deem any human to have a great value?

Not on any objective level.
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#53
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:32 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 10:31 am)Jesster Wrote: No you tell me  Dead Horse

Apparently, I live in my own world where you guys don't understand.

So I need to see what you perceive these words to mean.

Cant comment without the word being used to describe something, by itself it is just another word. 

"What do you think of the word "frog"......... It's a word.

Context to comment on would be.

"What do you think as far as having a frog as a pet?"

Then I could comment in that context, but even then it would be my own personal point of view.

I don't like frogs so I would not have one as a pet. Others may like them and do have them as pets. Others eat frogs.

So "greatness" as well has to be put in front of something.

"That billionaire is greatness because of all the money they made"
"That artist is greatness because tons of people like their art".
"That movie is greatness because it was a hit at the box office".

That still would not mean I have to value that billionaire. Maybe that billionaire got rich screwing over poor people.
I don't value Picasso or Jackson Pollock, I can think of other artists I like much more.
Everyone liked the movie Titanic back in the 90s, I thought it sucked.

You cant define something in one word that is left in ambiguity. There is no context with that single word "greatness" left by itself. It tells me nothing about what one might think is great.
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#54
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
Ok with respect to their merit?

(March 22, 2017 at 10:38 am)Jesster Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 10:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok value, let's work with the word value?

Do you deem any human to have a great value?

Not on any objective level.

This is where we differ I guess. I think humans have objective value, and the value itself is objective. I don't believe I can value according to objective value,  my judgement doesn't perceive things objective value, but I know they have it.

This is why it is so obvious to me value is linked with existence, to the extent all levels of value are found in the existence, and hence existence is just another name for God.
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#55
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
Again, not on any objective level.

Value has nothing to do with objectivity. Personal views prove nothing.
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#56
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:43 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok with respect to their merit?
Merit for what?



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#57
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:45 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 10:43 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok with respect to their merit?
Merit for what?

For goodness, what it to be appreciated, their states of being in the past (ie. actions, habits, etC).
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#58
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
"Goodness" is also subjective.
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#59
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
(March 22, 2017 at 10:47 am)Jesster Wrote: "Goodness" is also subjective.
Are we subjective?
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#60
RE: To explain why we can define God to affirm his existence!
I know English is not your first language, but the internet has dictionaries.
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