I believe numbers are sacred!

[Mystic]

and instead of mentioning something like the golden ratio

The golden means I don't think is random either, but I think manifests that goodness and beauty is linked to balance, and the more "good deeds" we do with a balance in life, the more beautiful our souls become.

I meant by golden means the ratio.

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Believing things without basis is no trick.  It's believing only things that have a rational basis which is difficult.

Do you believe if God exists, it's not rational to believe he would create the spiritual foundations and the spiritual world of how we ascend and how blessings descend with numbers? Or would it be chaotic and random with no numbers?

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6 is scared of 7, because it doesn't want to perish but keep it's identity, as 7 eight the 9 heads of the idol, final step to become one with God and lose one's self in the music of God's words.

God says don't be scared 6 for the sacred of valley of unity is the place of true life and blessings!

That was a sacred joke!

[Cyberman]

Protip:

If you have to explain that it's a joke as you tell the joke, it's not a joke.

[Mystic]

Protip:

If you have to explain that it's a joke as you tell the joke, it's not a joke.

Except mentioning the joke was sacred was part of the joke. *Sigh*

You guys do really hate me now.

[Jesster]

I don't hate you. I'm just disappointed. You still have a place here in reality with us whenever you want to come back.

[Cyberman]

Except mentioning the joke was sacred was part of the joke. *Sigh*

You guys do really hate me now.

I tickled your martyr chip. Have your orgasm and be content with that. Next time, ask first.

[Mystic]

Except mentioning the joke was sacred was part of the joke. *Sigh*

You guys do really hate me now.

I tickled your martyr chip. Have your orgasm and be content with that. Next time, ask first.

You have to try harder if you trying to break me.

[Angrboda]

Believing things without basis is no trick.  It's believing only things that have a rational basis which is difficult.

Do you believe if God exists, it's not rational to believe he would create the spiritual foundations and the spiritual world of how we ascend and how blessings descend with numbers? Or would it be chaotic and random with no numbers?

If one were to grant numbers some sort of ontological reality such that we could say they exist, and grant that God exists and is the creator of all things, then numbers would be sacred in the most base sense that they have a connection with the divine. However in this, there is no obvious basis for concluding that numbers have anything to do with "the spiritual foundations and the spiritual world," or have anything to do with blessings. You've jumped from one to the other without any basis for doing so. If God exists and he created everything, his creation of numbers surely exists on a different continuum than his creation of birds and trees and fish. The question of his relation to numbers would be much the same as the question of his relation to "the good." It's not entirely clear on that basis whether numbers are incidental to his intentions in creating other things, or serves some central purpose, or was simply an unavoidable consequence of his nature. Positing that numbers are sacred, rather than answering an interesting question, simply opens up a whole bunch more.

For my part, I neither believe in God, nor that numbers have the same ontological reality as birds and trees and fish. So we never reach such lofty speculations to begin with without a great deal of prior preperatory work.

sa·cred
/ˈsākrəd/

connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.

If God is the creator of all things, then there is nothing that is not sacred. However, you seem to mean sacred to imply that the subject in question has a "higher purpose" in God's creation than do the birds and trees and fish. This you've yet to establish any basis for. Thus my comment.

[Cyberman]

You have to try harder if you trying to break me.

I'm not "trying" to do anything. You seem to be spoiling for a fight; please look elsewhere. Or I really will start to hate you.

[Mystic]

Jor, you mentioned a good point.

All creation if God exists, has to have a purpose with the divine. We are all interlinked and have a purpose.

What I was trying to say is that I think given how precise everything is with the golden ratio in biology and creation, and how things follow a precise algorithm (dna), I would imagine, something is similar in the spiritual world.

That there is some equation by which every "hue" get's it color just like physical colors, vibrations, etc....

I believe the golden ratio is of the manifestations of God's perfect balanced beauty. We can never see the fib sequence with absolute infinity, but all names of God exist with a hue and vibration, although they all point back to ONE and manifest ONE absolute beauty and light and reality.

What I also to say is that the journey has rules, etiquette, and only those with full knowledge of the spiritual etiquette with respect to every vibrating soul, and what every soul needs, can lead us on this journey.

I believe our very creation from embryo all the stages to human, shows, it's the same with advancing spiritually, there is some sort of pattern and equation we have to follow.

The nature of God he originated humanity is the best form, and hence, we can be degraded to the worst form as a result.

I believe everything in nature manifest hues of what we are in reality and that everything is about manifesting beauty and glory. We all manifest one another in a way because there is one judgement and reality by which we all derive from.

I think it's very rational to believe the spiritual actions and who we are is not randomly chaotically created. I think the opposite of that conclusion is to say God encompasses in numbers and has organized things according to a numbered book algorithm.

[Edwardo Piet]

As super utterly awesomely epicly kickass as you are Steambum...

... I don't think MK is the type to be spoiling for a fight.

No I think he's the type to be bigging up god like this because he has an invisible intangible micropenis which he deems sacred (well, invisible until you get the magnifying glass).

All this bigging up Allah is definitely compensating for something.

Yes, yes, this is a dick joke thread now.