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Synchronicity vs Apophenia
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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 1, 2017 at 9:11 pm
(April 1, 2017 at 4:33 pm)Flavius Wrote: So which one do you guys think is more likely, our universe runs on a basis of synchronicity or is that just a man-made construct that seeks to find patterns in supposedly randomly given data. I'm looking forward to seeing your guy's answers.

I do not see what synchronicity or apophenia have to do with the "running" of the universe. The universe was before humans and will continue to be once we are gone.
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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 1, 2017 at 9:52 pm
I thought someone necro'ed an old debate thread of Apo's.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 1, 2017 at 10:06 pm
(April 1, 2017 at 6:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (to Alex)  Synchronicity is Jung's nutty notion that coincidences are related because they seem to be.  Thus, if I win the lottery on the same day I stubbed my toe, Jung would proclaim that stubbing my toe and winning the lottery are not causally connected, but 'meaningfully connected'.
OK, lemme see if I get this.
If you stubbed your toe in the morning, then won the lottery later in the day, Jung would admit that stubbing one's toe doesn't cause one to win the lottery, right?
But what does "meaningfully connected" mean? If I also ate French toast that morning, would it also be "meaningfully connected"? And if so, where does the meaning stop? Couldn't literally every single thing I did that day be "meaningfully connected" to winning the lottery?
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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 1, 2017 at 10:12 pm (This post was last modified: April 1, 2017 at 10:13 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
Apothenia is just pattern seeking to the level of a disorder.

On a non-pathological level apophenia is in all of us.

But there is no objective synchronicity in the universe or 'in us'.

TL;DR Apophenia is your answer.

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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 2, 2017 at 4:32 am
(April 1, 2017 at 5:17 pm)Alex K Wrote: What is synchronicity?






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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 5, 2017 at 7:11 pm
(April 1, 2017 at 9:11 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(April 1, 2017 at 4:33 pm)Flavius Wrote: So which one do you guys think is more likely, our universe runs on a basis of synchronicity or is that just a man-made construct that seeks to find patterns in supposedly randomly given data. I'm looking forward to seeing your guy's answers.

I do not see what synchronicity or apophenia have to do with the "running" of the universe. The universe was before humans and will continue to be once we are gone.

It's sort of like asking if deja vu exists as a physical rule. It's sort of like asking if....
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RE: Synchronicity vs Apophenia
April 5, 2017 at 7:15 pm
(April 1, 2017 at 9:52 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I thought someone necro'ed an old debate thread of Apo's.

Effffff. You beat me to it.
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