What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?

[Amarok]

I guess the problem is that a lot of the members here seem to know pretty much only the types of Christian people who are extremely ignorant, deny science, and hate gays (or perhaps those are simply the only ones who stick out in their mind?).

When I look at the long-time theists on AF, I see only very well-educated, intelligent, and overall thoughtful contributors who are remarkably patient despite all the insults they endure. I also think in the US there are regional differences that get confused with religious ones. For example the South truly gets a bad rap. Not for a second do I think people below the Mason-Dixon line are anything like their detractors say. They just do things a little differently.

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Then you have neither CL or Neo have ever read a chick tract because they villainize Catholics all the time 

For a long time I collected Chick comics just because they were so appalling. I don't believe they are representative of what the vast majority of Christians believe.

Not a true scots man

Considering how widely these things are distributed I think these might be more wide spread then your giving them credit especially in mega church crowd

[Brian37]

When I look at the long-time theists on AF, I see only very well-educated, intelligent, and overall thoughtful contributors who are remarkably patient despite all the insults they endure. I also think in the US there are regional differences that get confused with religious ones. For example the South truly gets a bad rap. Not for a second do I think people below the Mason-Dixon line are anything like their detractors say. They just do things a little differently.

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For a long time I collected Chick comics just because they were so appalling. I don't believe they are representative of what the vast majority of Christians believe.

um . .

Christians or True Christians®

Liberals and conservatives both truly believe they got it right. I could care less what religion one wants to argue. 

It still amounts to the follower, "I got it right'. Western progressives use the same books of ANY religion, to justify compassion and inclusion. I would argue to my fellow liberals that you do not take your holy writings literally word for word like a conservative Muslim or conservative Christian or conservative Jew. 

Both conservatives and liberals use the same core books to justify sell of inclusion and sell of fear of outsiders. The further back in time you go in all of those religions the more intolerant of outsiders you see the majority behaving. 

I am glad liberal theists don't act on every verse as literal, if humans didn't cherry pick we would still be as barbaric and the west never would have progressed.

[Amarok]

Then of course there are groups like Carm

https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian

https://carm.org/are-roman-catholics-christian

[vorlon13]

There are some sites on the internet that charge Jack Chick with heresy. For instance:

Jack Chick plainly teaches in every Chick Track that faith in Jesus Christ is insufficient to save unless you are willing to cease from your sins. That is works salvation!!! Mr. Chick puts the cart before the horse, demanding a willingness to change as a qualifying prerequisite to faith in Christ. That is a back door approach to Lordship Salvation. I am not loyal to men, but to the Word of God. Anyone who messes with the Gospel needs to be exposed. Jack Chick is hindering sinners from coming to Christ!


But that raises to me the question if one has sincere faith in Jesus why would that individual be unwilling to stop sinning?? "Works salvation" is an inescapable side effect of sincerely held belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

To posit a real world example: simultaneous, concurrent and totally synchronized ejaculation into a child's butt and belief in Jesus Christ.

[Catholic_Lady]

Then you have neither CL or Neo have ever read a chick tract because they villainize Catholics all the time 

I was saying i HAD met protestants who say Catholics aren't Christians.

[Amarok]

Then you have neither CL or Neo have ever read a chick tract because they villainize Catholics all the time 

I was saying i HAD met protestants who say Catholics aren't Christians.

Oh sorry i misread

Orignal post edited

[Catholic_Lady]

I guess the problem is that a lot of the members here seem to know pretty much only the types of Christian people who are extremely ignorant, deny science, and hate gays (or perhaps those are simply the only ones who stick out in their mind?).

When I look at the long-time theists on AF, I see only very well-educated, intelligent, and overall thoughtful contributors who are remarkably patient despite all the insults they endure.

To clarify, i wasn't referring to the theists on AF, but those that members here may have met in real life.

I agree... I'd say most long time theists here are legit folks.

[Pat Mustard]

The hallmark of a good debater is to interpret his/her opponent's position with as much understanding and charity as possible.

And the hallmark of a bad debater is to ignore the points the other side are making, and just plough on with your PRATTs.

You sir, are a horribly bad debater.

[vorlon13]

Then you have neither CL or Neo have ever read a chick tract because they villainize Catholics all the time 

I was saying i HAD met protestants who say Catholics aren't Christians.

"Jews for Jesus" are getting to be, in my view, the reference standard for understanding Jesus and following His lead.  So imagine where I'm thinking protestants and catholics rate in the big scheme of things, [snicker].

BTW;

driving on the right = Protestantism

driving on the left = Catholicism

[Catholic_Lady]

I was saying i HAD met protestants who say Catholics aren't Christians.

"Jews for Jesus" are getting to be, in my view, the reference standard for understanding Jesus and following His lead.  So imagine where I'm thinking protestants and catholics rate in the big scheme of things, [snicker].

BTW;

driving on the right = Protestantism

driving on the left = Catholicism

I don't understand this post.