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Creationist Moral Panic
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RE: Creationist Moral Panic
(June 12, 2017 at 11:44 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I was gonna write a long rave debunking wooters and mini me but upon reflection . Just no . Face Neo you suck . You suck at defending moral objectivism . You suck at defending theistic morality . And you at attacking naturalistic morality almost as much as Sam Harris is at defending it . And Dawkins and company are at undermining it with stupid quotes . So i'm not going to waste my time. Welcome to my ignore list say high to Asshole and Wally.

[size=small]But I minor context . You didn't address the notion that the trait Should have remained present in modern context. Because it was advantageous .  It didn't so evolution would deem it a failure . So point refuted.

(June 6, 2017 at 4:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There is still the difficulty of getting an "ought from an is"  here as well. 

It doesn't matter what is best for society with this kind of evolutionary view as a bases for morality, only what survives, and is passed along through genetics.  That which reproduces more is moral...I can't subscribe to that.

neither does any serious naturalist

(June 6, 2017 at 5:18 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: However, we're in human society, not 'in evolution'. It simply doesn't follow that Khan is to be emulated.

Well said

Ok... so just to clarify, you are saying that no "serious naturalist" puts forth evolution as a basis for morality? I ask, because this seems inconsistant with your last comment to Neo.
However if you do, I'm glad that we are in agreement and can find some common ground!
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RE: Creationist Moral Panic
No serious naturalist advances the 'naturalistic fallacy' that something is good because it is natural.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Creationist Moral Panic
(June 13, 2017 at 10:13 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: No serious naturalist advances the 'naturalistic fallacy' that something is good because it is natural.

And that no serious naturalist is saying that moral prescriptions are about evolutionary fitness . Or reproductive success .

What comment in particular ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Creationist Moral Panic
The one preceding my comment.
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RE: Creationist Moral Panic
(June 13, 2017 at 10:36 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The one preceding my comment.

ooops   that last sentence was " What comment in particular ?" Was for road

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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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No worries. Smile
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