(August 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You mean some of them actually want to do things they run on, instead of just saying those things to get votes?
Here is the rub on that. Nice bullshit utopia to chase a dream, but even if you truly believe the crap you peddle doesn't translate to results outside of bullying.
Yea sure you can run and win on what you believe, even our foes win on that sometimes.
In the west, while we value pluralism and debate, as we should, that cannot be lost to facts. Chasing power just because you want to be on top, even if successful only means you dominated your opposition, it does not mean you won on facts.
So sure even the GOP wants to push what they believe, but right now I don't see anymore value in their religious economic desires as I would Iran or Saudi Arabia.
All I see are humans fighting over utopias, not facts.