Irational fear of hell still naggs me from time to time

[vorlon13]

I note if one is going to have an 'irrational fear of hell' the version of hell being feared might as well be a logical and efficient one,

[Succubus]

1) you don't have to worry about fire as being a flame, and before I went I never understood brimstone but I do know what it is now.. it is like sulfur's version of lava,

5)I did not experience anything growning back. I just felt the hell fire burn through everything,

Melting point of Sulfur 115 ℃

2) there were no demons.

Musht be shome mishtake.

4) I did hear other's suffering, but your own was so intense it almost drowns out the wails of the mostrous demon shreaks and ground shaking moans.

[ignoramus]

I note if one is going to have an 'irrational fear of hell' the version of hell being feared might as well be a logical and efficient one,

Can one have a rational fear of hell?
I believe they can.

One's perception becomes one's worldview, their reality.
If one really does believe in hell 100%, then the fear to them is a rational and reasoned one.

[chimp3]

Been to Hell or at least to the Gates and let me help aliveiate some of your fears... The catholic/dante's inferno version is crap.

1) you don't have to worry about fire as being a flame, and before I went I never understood brimstone but I do know what it is now.. it is like sulfur's version of lava, which gives off a smell that will take the very breath out of your lungs. but before I knew that from a documentry I experienced something like that in my trip through the gates. how ever it was not fire, but hell fire which meant it gave off no light. the reason we compare hell fire to fire is because it gives us the same panic/primal response of being consumed by fire. In truth. Hell fire is much much worse than fire.

So don't fear fire and brimstone. Hell fire is what you need fear

2) there were no demons. as i was falling into the pit I and everything around me was being consumed by this hell fire there was no time for attacking or being attacked everything human and fallen angel alike were in gnashing teeth mode (which is a panicked scream filled with so much agnoy you can not open your mouth.. That was something I experienced first hand before learn the meaning of the word as well. Hell is not the realm of satan according to the bible. that idea is a mixture of Christianity and greek/roman mythology. Hell is the place where God send and punishes man and satan alike. This world is satan's world not Hell.

So don't fear demons they are being punished by the fire as well.

3) I only experienced passage of the gates but that was like being thrown into a pit, and on my way down I did indeed acknoweledge who God was, and once I did I felt me self being consumed by the fire, meaning burnt up/the thin part of me that held on to self identity/my sanity was being burned and melted away. meaning what made me me/my consciousness was being burned up/dying. Whatever left wold have been my animalistic nature which I could not imagine it lasting very much longer either as the level of fear and pain put a heavy toll on it's faculties as well.

So fear no boxes through the gates, just what seems like an endless fall.

4) I did hear other's suffering, but your own was so intense it almost drowns out the wails of the mostrous demon shreaks and ground shaking moans.

So don't be afraid of the pain of others as your own pain will drown out the pain you will hear in others.

5)I did not experience anything growning back. I just felt the hell fire burn through everything, and thr primal desire to swim through the thick brimstone pitch.. But what reall got me was not the pain or the gnashing teeth or anything else.. it was the what if question. What if I simply got the answers I was looking for while I was alive, or rather what if i had know God was real as I do now, would i be here r would I have lived a different life... It was the though of thinking on that question for eternity that brough tremoundous sorrow to my heart and a desire to try again.

So fear not once what make you, you is gone it doesn't matter to what is left.

FF 25 years and that is what I am doing here now. I help those who seek to know God's truth an opportunity to find it on His terms. I am not here to save anyone from Hell, but to keep them from experiencing what I did.. In that I dont want any of you to be in the spot I was asking if I simply known where to go or how to find God's truth, would I be here now? The thought of enduring hell fire forever was bad enough but the thought that the answers to a few simple questions could literally change everything made Hell too much to bear..

You're a damned liar.

[Drich]

Been to Hell or at least to the Gates and let me help aliveiate some of your fears... The catholic/dante's inferno version is crap.

1) you don't have to worry about fire as being a flame, and before I went I never understood brimstone but I do know what it is now.. it is like sulfur's version of lava, which gives off a smell that will take the very breath out of your lungs. but before I knew that from a documentry I experienced something like that in my trip through the gates. how ever it was not fire, but hell fire which meant it gave off no light. the reason we compare hell fire to fire is because it gives us the same panic/primal response of being consumed by fire. In truth. Hell fire is much much worse than fire.

So don't fear fire and brimstone. Hell fire is what you need fear

2) there were no demons. as i was falling into the pit I and everything around me was being consumed by this hell fire there was no time for attacking or being attacked everything human and fallen angel alike were in gnashing teeth mode (which is a panicked scream filled with so much agnoy you can not open your mouth.. That was something I experienced first hand before learn the meaning of the word as well. Hell is not the realm of satan according to the bible. that idea is a mixture of Christianity and greek/roman mythology. Hell is the place where God send and punishes man and satan alike. This world is satan's world not Hell.

So don't fear demons they are being punished by the fire as well.

3) I only experienced passage of the gates but that was like being thrown into a pit, and on my way down I did indeed acknoweledge who God was, and once I did I felt me self being consumed by the fire, meaning burnt up/the thin part of me that held on to self identity/my sanity was being burned and melted away. meaning what made me me/my consciousness was being burned up/dying. Whatever left wold have been my animalistic nature which I could not imagine it lasting very much longer either as the level of fear and pain put a heavy toll on it's faculties as well.

So fear no boxes through the gates, just what seems like an endless fall.

4) I did hear other's suffering, but your own was so intense it almost drowns out the wails of the mostrous demon shreaks and ground shaking moans.

So don't be afraid of the pain of others as your own pain will drown out the pain you will hear in others.

5)I did not experience anything growning back. I just felt the hell fire burn through everything, and thr primal desire to swim through the thick brimstone pitch.. But what reall got me was not the pain or the gnashing teeth or anything else.. it was the what if question. What if I simply got the answers I was looking for while I was alive, or rather what if i had know God was real as I do now, would i be here r would I have lived a different life... It was the though of thinking on that question for eternity that brough tremoundous sorrow to my heart and a desire to try again.

So fear not once what make you, you is gone it doesn't matter to what is left.

FF 25 years and that is what I am doing here now. I help those who seek to know God's truth an opportunity to find it on His terms. I am not here to save anyone from Hell, but to keep them from experiencing what I did.. In that I dont want any of you to be in the spot I was asking if I simply known where to go or how to find God's truth, would I be here now? The thought of enduring hell fire forever was bad enough but the thought that the answers to a few simple questions could literally change everything made Hell too much to bear..

You're a damned liar.

I have lied lots of times in the past.. does this make me look fat, will you go to disney if we all go and get tickets, didn't that non lactose no carb pizza taste good?
If that make me a liar so be it.

But know I stand before you in absolute truth/as close as I can remember all of it and believe me it does sear itself in one's mind (that is why this account does not vary much from the first time I shared this 4 or 5 years ago with you all.)

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Melting point of Sulfur 115 ℃


Musht be shome mishtake.

glob... Hell fire is not flame moron, if you read the whole thing hell fire does not emit flame or light, but it triggers the same primal reaction as being burned so to be burn by hell fire is far worse than seeing and feeling fame eat it's way through your members.

[Succubus]

glob... Hell fire is not flame moron, if you read the whole thing hell fire does not emit flame or light, but it triggers the same primal reaction as being burned so to be burn by hell fire is far worse than seeing and feeling fame eat it's way through your members.

Have Drich and Godscreated, ever been spotted online at the same time? Are they somehow related? An enquiring mind needs to know.

[Godscreated]

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Being a young adult, the idea of hell doesn't really make a whole lot of sense- yet I still fear it! I think it makes sense that the concept would have been created to scare people into being law abiding citizens in a era where law didn't exist. There was no police to stop them, so fear was the only surefire method. Today, people still buy into the fear. Although this explanation makes the most sense, I still fear the concept, that if I don't believe and I end up being incorrect, that I may suffer an afterlife of torture. Some of my fear stems from a few videos and books I have read about people who make the claim that they visited hell-- I KNOW! Being a young adult I should know better than to buy into some propaganda online or in a book, but for me, it's easier said than done. I want to let go of this, but I feel the best way to do this is to write down why I fear it, and deduce some logical conclusions with the help of others on a site where religion isn't the primary focus. On the contrary, logic is the primary focus.
I saw a few videos where people either had a Near Death Experience, or had a dream that they visited hell. What I found to be somewhat frightening was the fact that many people described the same concepts in their versions of hell. Commonly, they were:
- fire and brimstone
- demons which look like reptiles that attack them
- the people who say they went to hell often report being put into a cage or a cube
- they hear other people suffering and whaling
- often they get burnt or beaten, and when they lose a piece of skin or a body part, it grows back and they get tortured again.
Now, I know this all sounds like some fairy tale, but I saw at least 10 accounts like this. I don't know what to make of it. I know the concept of fire can be found as early as Augistine in the 300s or 400s, and I know the bible implies torment to those who do badly in their lives. Much of the imagery isn't too much of a shock there, but the idea that people report a multitude of cases seeing demons which they report look similar among accounts, and often torture or laugh at people suffering is what I cannot understand. Being raised Christian, I always had an image of what hell may look like. I could totally imagine how my brain during a Near death experience or a dream could create most of the fire and suffering imagery, but I would never expect hell to be filled with demons who look like reptiles. I asked some of my Christian friends, and they say the same thing. Why then, is this demon thing so consistent across "hellish" experiences? If I could get a logical answer to that, then I would be willing to say that these experiences are nothing more than a brain that is scared and confused trying to fill in the gaps during an episode. Does anyone have a plausible explanation here? It would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks and have a great day,
Arsoo

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 It's not irrational, it is quite sensible hell is a place to be feared.

GC

[chimp3]

You're a damned liar.

I have lied lots of times in the past.. does this make me look fat, will you go to disney if we all go and get tickets, didn't that non lactose no carb pizza taste good?
If that make me a liar so be it.

But know I stand before you in absolute truth/as close as I can remember all of it and believe me it does sear itself in one's mind (that is why this account does not vary much from the first time I shared this 4 or 5 years ago with you all.)

After all this time! You are still a damned liar!

[Aegon]

If you wanna experience a NDE take some DMT. Thank me later.

[Drich]

I have lied lots of times in the past.. does this make me look fat, will you go to disney if we all go and get tickets, didn't that non lactose no carb pizza taste good?
If that make me a liar so be it.

But know I stand before you in absolute truth/as close as I can remember all of it and believe me it does sear itself in one's mind (that is why this account does not vary much from the first time I shared this 4 or 5 years ago with you all.)

After all this time! You are still a damned liar!

Do you know how I got to go?

i demanded to see it...

If you want to experience it for yourself then threaten to spit in God's eye and demand he show you what was so bad about hell. Over and over and over again. I promise you. you will see Hell. What i can't promise is a return trip home. Even so that what I did. I wanted to know the truth and I jumped off a cliff to find it. I did.