Irational fear of hell still naggs me from time to time

[Drich]

[KevinM1]

Regarding the Iroquois Confederacy, while our government has acknowledged it as an inspiration for our own Constitution, there's controversy surrounding its actual role in the creation of our document.  Namely that much of what's presented within doesn't actually match up all that well to what our Constitution became.  Our government, and, perhaps, more specifically the way in which we govern is far closer to the British system than anything the Iroquois did.

what are you talking about google Iroquois confederacy.. the thre branches of government, the seperation of powers, that is the back bone of our constitution!!!

Our structure of government is largely a reaction to the flaws the Founders saw in the British system, namely the House of Lords, whose members consist(ed) of the senior bishops of the Church of England, royalty, and those voted in by the Sovereign and their peers (not the common folk).  Moreover, it was the House of Lords that, until 2009, when a separate Supreme Court was established, held a judicial role.  So, the Founders did the following:

Kept a bicameral legislature (our Congress has both a House of Representatives and a Senate)
Kept a member of the executive in the legislature (our Vice President is the President of the Senate, who casts tie-breaking votes)
Changed one part of the legislature from being filled by monarchy or religious leadership to being filled by anyone, with regular elections (no House of Lords)
Created a separate Supreme Court

And while the Iroquois Confederacy may have been an influence of Franklin's Albany Plan, there's no evidence in the mounds of notes and records we have of the Founders and their long road towards forming our government that it was the model for it.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  

But, I'm sure you're not going to listen because you're a blessed by god Google scholar whose shit doesn't stink.  That's how you roll, after all.

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[Drich]

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[snowtracks]

You just told us, in your own quoted statement above..that free will without sin was a possibility.  Obviously god doesn't have to make any middling choice between having free will and evil.  Are you really going to insist that your god prefers this earths fallen state to his own kingdom in heaven?

The New Creation* will be a sin-free zone. People who claim salvation by Jesus Christ will have the propensity to choose but will be unable to sin just as God can't do sin, accept sin, or overlook sin. This current universe will be spoken out of existence after it serves God's purposes.

*Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,

[Astreja]

The New Creation* will be a sin-free zone. People who claim salvation by Jesus Christ will have the propensity to choose but will be unable to sin...

So much for that "free will" shit.