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Incest?
#11
RE: Incest?
(October 25, 2010 at 1:41 pm)Skipper Wrote:
(October 25, 2010 at 1:36 pm)Shinylight Wrote: I don't see a problem with incest if both parties are consenting. Having a child through a relative is more likely to cause genetic defects though, so unless the potential parents are willing to deal with those risks I don't believe they should have children.

But why should a child suffer just because the parents are "willing to deal with those risks"?

I guess my issue isn't with the act of incest it is if a child then becomes involved.

'Dealing with the risks' meant immediate abortion.
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#12
RE: Incest?
Thought you meant dealing with the risks of having a child with disabilities. Sorry.
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#13
RE: Incest?
(October 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm)Skipper Wrote:
(October 25, 2010 at 1:49 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(October 25, 2010 at 1:24 pm)Skipper Wrote: I feel that based on the higher chance of any offspring (wanted or not) being born with serious disabilities that Incest is wrong and would want the law as it is currently in Britain that allows cousins to marry to be changed.

That would cast doubt on the genetic respectability of the British Royal Family. How would you like call your sovereign someone whose bloodline has been trashed for generations in a way that would not have been tolerated in the family of a commoner?

I don't care about the "genetic respectability of the British Royal Family", I'm not a massive royalist anyway so they don't come into it as far as im concerned. They may be descended from an insestual bloodline and have mostly gotten away with it in terms of their health, but it remains that a child born into a family where the two parents are related is more likely to have something wrong with them.

Some recent studies seems to show incest between normal human first cousins are much less likely to result in genetic problems in the offspring then previously thought because many of genetic problems that could result from incest requires the two parents to have even greater genetic similarities than is common between normal first cousins. This likely applies to most probable 1st cousin marriages amongst commoners.

But if the first cousins involved are genetically more related than usual, as might be the case if their respective linages already previous incests between them, then the risk is much elevated. This second case applies to the European royalty.


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#14
RE: Incest?
(October 25, 2010 at 2:02 pm)Skipper Wrote: Thought you meant dealing with the risks of having a child with disabilities. Sorry.

No my fault, I wasn't clear. Damn euphemisms.
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#15
RE: Incest?
There isn't anything "immoral" about it per se. I wouldn't suggest it as a recommended way of procreating, due to the genetic abnormalities that tend to appear in any offspring.
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#16
RE: Incest?
(October 25, 2010 at 1:41 pm)Skipper Wrote: But why should a child suffer just because the parents are "willing to deal with those risks"?

I guess my issue isn't with the act of incest it is if a child then becomes involved.

That is a good point you raise there Skipper, I had not really thought about the psychological effects on the children possibly being raised in such relationships, where for example mommy and dad are also uncle and aunt or your daddy is also your grandfather as well.

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#17
RE: Incest?
(October 25, 2010 at 6:53 pm)ziggystardust Wrote: That is a good point you raise there Skipper, I had not really thought about the psychological effects on the children possibly being raised in such relationships, where for example mommy and dad are also uncle and aunt or your daddy is also your grandfather as well.

That would not be the biggest worry compared to the possibility that the child will suffer terrible pain from minor bruise, bleed to death from minor wound, or be born with club foot or bone wasting disease,

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#18
RE: Incest?
Apart from it being culturally taboo and personally gross I don't care what other people want to do, so long as it doesn't have impact on anyone who didn't agree to it then they can do what they like.
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#19
RE: Incest?
I particularly don't care for it because it leaves a sickly perfumey smell throughout the house. Then there is the messy ashes to deal with, special holders you need to buy. I'd rather just use some canned air freshener or a plug-in. Less hassle.



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#20
RE: Incest?
Is this like in Norfolk when a man says "I'd like you to meet my mother, my sister and my wife" and theres only one woman there, is that what you mean?



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