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Christianity a scam?
#91
RE: Christianity a scam?
(December 16, 2017 at 9:48 pm)Haipule Wrote:
(December 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: All of the biblical miracles were written to support the idea expressed in Exodus 34:10 (TLB) =  "The Lord replied, “All right, this is the contract I am going to make with you. I will do miracles such as have never been done before anywhere in all the earth, and all the people of Israel shall see the power of the Lord—the terrible power I will display through you."
"Written to support?" Not that nothing ever happened, right? ""Through you(-all)". Nothing ever happened through the Jews. In fact, there are no Jews because the one who wrote about the formation of the Jewish race, and the Nation of Israel(before it even existed), also wrote about the formation of the universe! Since the biblical account of the universe formation is completely bullshit! Then, there is no such thing as a Jew! Never even existed!

Since the bible establishes races that don't even exist then, you don't exist and the universe is bullshit! Your just having a weird dream!

You're right, Jews didn't exist before the 16th Century = https://www.etymonline.com/word/Jew.

But we're discussing the biblical fairy tale so to be intellectually honest we need to evaluate what it says based on what it says.  Therefore, the writers included the miracles to support the idea expressed in Exodus 34:10, which was that the Jews were special and that the Yahweh character had their back.  The story wouldn't make any sense if the verse had been included but there were no "miracles" to support it.  

Would a cowboy movie make any sense if there were no horses in it?
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#92
RE: Christianity a scam?
(December 15, 2017 at 3:59 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(December 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Making points you can't counter is your measure of (a lack of) "character." That actually explains a lot.

Go ahead, try making a point you think you can defend. We'll see what happens.


(December 15, 2017 at 3:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: So what were the reasons? It appears that in the beginning it was a passive revenge cult against the oppressors. Our magic will eventually punish them and reward us.

You have no clue what the NT is about do you? How about you post some passages to support your characterization? In the meantime, I will post a pretty popular series of verses called "The Romans Road" that indicates something entirely different. 

Romans 3:23 NKJV – for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:10 NKJV – As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;
Romans 5:12 NKJV – Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned–
Romans 6:23 NKJV – For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:8 NKJV – But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:9-10 NKJV – that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation
Romans 10:13 NKJV – For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
Romans 10:17 NKJV – So then faith [comes] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You are going with Romans? 
Wow. Clearly you have not read all of that absurdity. You understand tha Paul never actually never met you jebus? You know that, right?

(December 15, 2017 at 3:59 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(December 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Making points you can't counter is your measure of (a lack of) "character." That actually explains a lot.

Go ahead, try making a point you think you can defend. We'll see what happens.


(December 15, 2017 at 3:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: So what were the reasons? It appears that in the beginning it was a passive revenge cult against the oppressors. Our magic will eventually punish them and reward us.

You have no clue what the NT is about do you? How about you post some passages to support your characterization? In the meantime, I will post a pretty popular series of verses called "The Romans Road" that indicates something entirely different. 

Romans 3:23 NKJV – for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:10 NKJV – As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;
Romans 5:12 NKJV – Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned–
Romans 6:23 NKJV – For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:8 NKJV – But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:9-10 NKJV – that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation
Romans 10:13 NKJV – For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
Romans 10:17 NKJV – So then faith [comes] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You are going with Romans? 
Wow. Clearly you have not read all of that absurdity. You understand tha Paul never actually never met you jebus? You know that, right?
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