Subatomic Particles Communicating

[ib.me.ub]

You say your beleif is close to mine, but I care to differ. I do not beleive in the so called after life or any related subject.

Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god.

[The Skeptic]

I've read of this stuff before. It's called quantum entanglement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8uZUzuRhk

[Anomalocaris]

....... as for weak evidence, this is all we as spiritualists have.....

Weak evidence is not grounds for drawing lofty conclusions. If weak evidence is all you have, then you particularly should not draw lofty conclusions.

[Jaysyn]

and yet these people were having full on experiences throughout. either we must change the way we consider death clinical, or this is revolutionary.

Considering there is no way to know this, & there is no way for the patient to have any sense of time while clinically dead, I'm going with the theory that they had a time compressed hallucination in the moments they were regaining consciousness. I've actually had something similar happen (bu not a NDE) & they can seem very long temporally & very convincing.

[ib.me.ub]

I've read of this stuff before. It's called quantum entanglement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8uZUzuRhk

Does anyone else think this is amazing?

[Welsh cake]

"Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier,........"

Now where exactly are these findings of the experiments and their results published? And did physicist Alain Aspect and his team from the University of Paris undergo the peer-review scientific process at all? l don't ever recall the discovery of hypothetical subatomic particles, like Tachyons, to actually manifest in reality, that's not to say they don't, but to date, there's no empirical evidence for any of this.

People who say God can't communicate with every single person, this scratches the surface of that thought. Also, prior to this discovery, a few people who had a near death experience and reported it, said that they were able to be anywhere
at the speed of a thought.

That's a non sequitur. I fail to grasp how subatomic particles as evidence for your god concept have any correlation with people's hallucinatory personal experiences when they're on the verge of biological death.

And please, don't tell me to look at the birds and trees next.

im fully aware of brain chemical based spirituality.

Brain chemical based what?

but you should do more researce on the topic of NDE's. these reports are coming from people whos medical charts say they were clinically dead. meaning heart was stopped, and there was no brain activity whatsoever. not even a bleep, bloop, etc. and yet these people were having full on experiences throughout.

It's just a medical term - clinical death is an *assessment* following examination it is NOT the same thing as permanent biological death. The human body can survive clinical death for considerable time periods.

either we must change the way we consider death clinical, or this is revolutionary. do some research. as for weak evidence, this is all we as spiritualists have. for we understand that life is not about debating whats beyond it, but about debating whats within it.

So all you have is testimonial evidence. Great. There are also people who will tell you they've been abducted by aliens. What reason do we have to believe any such claims as truth?

[ib.me.ub]

Now where exactly are these findings of the experiments and their results published? And did physicist Alain Aspect and his team from the University of Paris undergo the peer-review scientific process at all? l don't ever recall the discovery of hypothetical subatomic particles, like Tachyons, to actually manifest in reality, that's not to say they don't, but to date, there's no empirical evidence for any of this.

Entanglement has since been verified by a series of experiments beginning in 1972 by Stuart Freedman and John Clauser[1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

In regards to Tachyons and Superluminal Communication, this has not yet been proven....

[Welsh cake]

Entanglement has since been verified by a series of experiments beginning in 1972 by Stuart Freedman and John Clauser[1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

In regards to Tachyons and Superluminal Communication, this has not yet been proven....

All this is an interpretation of quantum mechanics? I wonder why God quoted it even. I needn't have bothered reading up the experiments; it's essentially failed to go through peer-review since the validity of the findings is under scrutiny.

[Autumnlicious]

Yay! Another poof who shouts "Quantum!" without understanding a shred of shit about it.

You and Deepak Chopra must really have fun circle jerks.

way to jump to a conclusion. would you like to discuss the quantam topic? im sure i could
demonstrate my understanding of it quite nicely. hey, perhaps you would even learn a few things!
and why act like a dick?

It's "quantum". And why should I believe that someone who spouts off some unsubstantiated bullshit about subatomic particles "communicating" while being unable to make a proper sentence?

Perhaps I would learn a few things - like how poorly you understand QM, superluminal light (not proven at all) and EPR paradox. Or maybe I shouldn't deepen my depth of understanding of the pits of human stupidity, which is so far held true to Einstein's supposition of the infinite.

[God]

what i meant is that I have a similar view of God.

You say your beleif is close to mine, but I care to differ. I do not beleive in the so called after life or any related subject.

Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god.

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Two things I've noticed. One, a lot of atheists like to point out flaws in other's grammar and spelling. Two, they like to fluff their arguments with contentious verbiage. You know what type of people do the same thing? Insecure folks.

Yay! Another poof who shouts "Quantum!" without understanding a shred of shit about it.

You and Deepak Chopra must really have fun circle jerks.

way to jump to a conclusion. would you like to discuss the quantam topic? im sure i could
demonstrate my understanding of it quite nicely. hey, perhaps you would even learn a few things!
and why act like a dick?

It's "quantum". And why should I believe that someone who spouts off some unsubstantiated bullshit about subatomic particles "communicating" while being unable to make a proper sentence?

Perhaps I would learn a few things - like how poorly you understand QM, superluminal light (not proven at all) and EPR paradox. Or maybe I shouldn't deepen my depth of understanding of the pits of human stupidity, which is so far held true to Einstein's supposition of the infinite.