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Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 1:24 pm
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It is bullshit for Christians to claim that winged icons such as winged lions, Cherubs or angels are original to Christianity, much less monotheism.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 1:37 pm
Right.
Just more stuff that the assholes copied from older and wiser cultures.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 1:39 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Right.
Just more stuff that the assholes copied from older and wiser cultures.
I wouldn't call older polytheism wiser. Nobody back then had a Stephen Hawking.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 1:48 pm
I've never heard anyone argue that the idea of creatures with wings that don't normally have them, are original to christianity. I mean, I'm pretty sure pegasus from greek myth is older than christianity or judaism, and everyone knows pegasus.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:01 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 1:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I've never heard anyone argue that the idea of creatures with wings that don't normally have them, are original to christianity. I mean, I'm pretty sure pegasus from greek myth is older than christianity or judaism, and everyone knows pegasus.
Not the point.
The point is every religion argues originality, and there is no such thing. Humans were making up shit long before the first written language.
I was just watching a travel show about Venice Italy, and the narrator mentioned a church with a winged lion on it denoting St Mark. Point is that anthropomorphism isn't unique to Christianity or any monotheism.
Humans came up with winged hero mythology even independently worldwide. Humans saw birds flying and desired to have that same ability.
Flying in antiquity was s symbol of freedom, and the lion a symbol of power. Winged aggressive animals depicted in mythology(which is what all religions are) also exist in Asia. How many winged dragons do you see in their religious artwork?
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:03 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 18, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Just more stuff that the assholes copied from older and wiser cultures.
I wouldn't call older polytheism wiser. Nobody back then had a Stephen Hawking.
IDK. Maybe they were wiser in that they didn't believe in deities who micromanaged their lives. Sure, Osiris might not really exist... but he doesn't look on with a furrowed brow while you maturbate either.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:08 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 2:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (March 18, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I wouldn't call older polytheism wiser. Nobody back then had a Stephen Hawking.
IDK. Maybe they were wiser in that they didn't believe in deities who micromanaged their lives. Sure, Osiris might not really exist... but he doesn't look on with a furrowed brow while you maturbate either.
No sorry, for that logic to work you still have to prove that a god or gods are needed as the starting point. Jefferson thought the same thing of the biblical god. He thought that the God of the bible set everything in motion then stepped aside.
It is simply less authoritarian logic but still based on the claim that invisible beings pull our strings.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:33 pm
Going by my username, am I a winged religious icon?
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:39 pm
All religions evolved from older versions. Animist religions came before polytheism and monotheism, so the practice of applying features to gods such as wings, horns, fur, fangs, goes back even further than writing I am sure.
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RE: Winged religious icons.
March 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 2:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 18, 2018 at 1:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I've never heard anyone argue that the idea of creatures with wings that don't normally have them, are original to christianity. I mean, I'm pretty sure pegasus from greek myth is older than christianity or judaism, and everyone knows pegasus.
Some of the boards denizens would argue that the pagan pegasus myth was somehow derived from their Totally Christian bedtime stories.
That all god stories are original to their god story, as the orignial god story.
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