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New roots
#21
RE: New roots
(November 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Leave nature alone.

Happy starving.
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#22
RE: New roots
(November 21, 2010 at 3:10 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(November 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Leave nature alone.

Happy starving.

Thank you. I will take your kindness into consideration while I'm eating my completely natural food that does not make me sick.
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
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#23
RE: New roots
(November 21, 2010 at 5:16 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Thank you. I will take your kindness into consideration while I'm eating my completely natural food that does not make me sick.

All food is "natural", except maybe twinkies. Or NY pizza, but that's just because that's the only food I might consider being actual manna from heaven.

The only sickness I ever got from eating FDA approved food on the shelves of my local grocery store was a fat ass, but since I had such a good time preparing and eating it, I'm not complaining. Makes an easier target for spanking.

Easy to say from my perch in the western world though.
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#24
RE: New roots
(November 21, 2010 at 5:16 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Thank you. I will take your kindness into consideration while I'm eating my completely natural food that does not make me sick.

Do you laugh when you kid yourself?
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#25
RE: New roots
(November 21, 2010 at 5:16 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(November 21, 2010 at 3:10 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(November 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Leave nature alone.

Happy starving.

Thank you. I will take your kindness into consideration while I'm eating my completely natural food that does not make me sick.

Really Zeus, the naturalistic fallacy? Come on, you can do better than that Smile

It's seriously not going to be long before it's (and in some cases already clearly is) the case that GM food is not only better for feeding larger numbers of people more efficiently and making the most out of limited resources, but is also better for you than the "natural" alternatives.
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#26
RE: New roots
thesummerqueen Wrote:
ib.me.ub Wrote:
thesummerqueen Wrote:
ib.me.ub Wrote:Well, I don't know much about GM crops, but I am for the Rainforests. I don't support any crops, GM or not, that are going to destroy the Natural Eco-Systems of the World.

That's just your opinion against humanity in general. The fact is we're here - and more efficient use of the exisiting developed land, as well as making use of less viable lands through crops developed to grow in them, is the only way to feed starving nations.

Don't you get it. No Eco-System = No Humanity. Without the biosphere there will be no goddam humanity.

You're right - the quote I responded to about your opinion of crops, I did not read correctly. By the by, nature's stronger than that - if we introduce something that takes over, it will still act like a plant does - the eco-system will shrug into a new position. We'll be forced to adapt or fail. You're correct. But I'm hard-pressed to think of something that's going to be released into the wild that will truly make it so humanity dies out because it took over the earth and destroyed every option we had left to us. We're an adaptable lot.

See I said nothing about Gm crops here. I said I don't know much about Gm crops and I am for the biosphere.

You went on to say that I am against humanity, so I went on to say I am not against humanity. I am against over population.

I could say that I am deviating from the point of the thread a little, but you did also.

Basically, I am for GM crops as long as they don't destroy the biosphere to produce them, this is basically what I said originally. I never said I was against GM crops. The affects that may arrise from genetic manipulation will be seen at a later date, or not. It can only be one of two answers.

In regards to feeding the World, this has yet to be done, and will be interesting to see if it can ever be done. GM crops are probably the best answer, but Id imagine there will never be enough food to feed the entire World population, as the World population keeps growing.
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#27
RE: New roots
(November 19, 2010 at 5:20 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: W00t!

THIS is the shit we should be concentrating on... Fuck you, you elitist assholes and your problems with GM crops.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ng-biofuel

I don't have a beef with GM crops, I have a beef with companies like Monsanto potentially doing very, very shady things with things like "Terminator Genes" & suing farmers because their crops were inadvertently wind-pollinated by their "Roundup Ready" GM plants.

GM Food may end up saving the world, but Monsanto is shady as fuck. My father's side of my family got fairly wealthy from onion, peanut & tobacco farming, I don't like the idea of having to have a "seed license" & I don't think living things should be able to be patented.

Quote:Monsanto did not directly try to explain how the Roundup Ready seed got there. "Whether Mr. Schmeiser knew of the matter or not matters not at all," said Roger Hughes, a Monsanto attorney quoted by The Western Producer, a Canadian agriculture magazine. A canola scientist, in an affidavit for Monsanto in the trial, said Schmeiser's theories of cross-pollination by wind and bees did not make sense to him, given the purity of plants grown based on Monsanto's tests. "It was a very frightening thing, because they said it does not matter how it gets into a farmer's field; it's their property," Schmeiser said, in an interview with Agweek. "If it gets in by wind or cross-pollination, that doesn't matter."

Does the above sound like a sane point of view?
(November 21, 2010 at 8:07 am)Shinylight Wrote: If the corporations would get off their capitalist fat cat asses and actually help people...

They don't make money that way so there is no benefit for them to do so.

"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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