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Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
#11
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
Nah. This guy is batshit crazy. Religion really has nothing to do with it, but since he is a very religious man, his delusions took a religious form. If he weren't so religious, the delusions and voices in his head might very well have been aliens or something else entirely. With or without his religion... this guy was going to hear voices and kill someone.
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#12
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
His reasons for action have nothing to do with it Paul? In what sense?
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#13
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
What I'm saying is that he's insane and would be insane even if he was not religious. He is religious, so his delusions and the voices in his head took the form of 'God' and 'demons', but if he was not religious, his delusions might have been something else... like aliens, for example. Religion did not make him crazy. He is crazy with or without the religion.

Or... at least... possibly. Maybe I'm wrong and his religion did make him insane, but I don't think that's likely. I think it's more likely that he suffers from a severe case of schizophrenia and that his strong religious beliefs influenced his delusions. Without those strong religious beliefs, the schizophrenia would remain, but the delusions would be different.
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#14
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
Quote:George Carlin, “why is it that crazy people who think they hear God, he always tells someone to kill somebody. Doesn’t that voice ever say, ‘Go take a shit on the salad bar at Wendy’s?’”
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#15
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
I'm saying, though, he used his religion to justify what he did. Without religion, yes, maybe he would've killed somebody anyway but he would probably realise it was wrong and not use "they were possessed" as an excuse.
Don’t ask.

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#16
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
(November 30, 2010 at 4:33 pm)Diamond Wrote: I'm saying, though, he used his religion to justify what he did. Without religion, yes, maybe he would've killed somebody anyway but he would probably realise it was wrong and not use "they were possessed" as an excuse.

That's not how schizophrenia works.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#17
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
(December 1, 2010 at 11:52 am)Jaysyn Wrote: That's not how schizophrenia works.

I said maybe.
Sorry, I don't really understand what exactly schizophrenia is.
Don’t ask.

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#18
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
(December 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm)Diamond Wrote: I said maybe.
Sorry, I don't really understand what exactly schizophrenia is.

Schizophrenia is a mental disorder believed to be caused by an excessive amount of activity related to the excessive bioavailability of dopamine in the mesolimbic area of the brain. It's characterized by a disintegration of mental and physical functioning manifested by auditory hallucinations, disorganized speech and thinking, and paranoid or bizarre delusions. The disorder is usually accompanied by significant social dysfunction and disability and most commonly appears in the late teens or early twenties. Treatment consists of a combination of pharmacotherapy and psychotherapy, with some behavioral modification and vocational rehabilitation tossed in the mix.

Religiosity is a common theme amongst those with schizophrenia and command hallucinations such as those described by the young man in the article are also pretty common. My guess is that he'll never stand trial for the murder of his mother... he's too ill and though he would probably benefit from regular administration of some pretty decent antipsychotics, he'll be locked up for the rest of his life.

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#19
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
Quote:I heard about this in class this morning (and, to be honest, I thought "the forum is probably gonna say something about this"). Just another case of someone using religion to justify something horrible.

This is not religion, its a mental illness.

(This is not aimed at you, but others) when will people actually think for themselves instead of using ideologies from the holy God dellusion? Religion does not make one evil. religion is a philosophical and theological belief system. Evil people will be evil. Good people will be good. Isnt that an idea?
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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#20
RE: Ugly Betty actor slays the demon.
(December 3, 2010 at 5:19 am)solja247 Wrote: Evil people will be evil. Good people will be good. Isnt that an idea?

But religion is such a fantastic catalyst for good people to undertake evil acts!
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