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Yes, I generally like the presence of Christians here.
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Overall, do you like Christians being here?
RE: Overall, do you like Christians being here?
That means Jesus has to judge himself, since he was a man too. I call shenanigans on that. We need someone impartial like me or Aquaman.
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RE: Overall, do you like Christians being here?
(May 11, 2018 at 9:29 am)robvalue Wrote: That means Jesus has to judge himself, since he was a man too. I call shenanigans on that. We need someone impartial like me or Aquaman.

Further confusion (or clarification actually) from Jesus Himself on how the Trinity is set up:

Matthew 28 (KJV)
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Shocking in it's import, and a vivid illustration of how far off the mark 'mainline Christian' perception of the Trinity is. Or, how wrong Jesus is about it. Sorry that sounds snarky, but these days hardly anyone in the Christian orbit seems shy about breaking with Jesus on all manner of issues that were actually 'cut and dried' when I was a kid. That Jesus is 'wrong' about the Trinity is on the table thanks to His (impious) followers these days.
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RE: Overall, do you like Christians being here?
(May 11, 2018 at 9:03 am)vorlon13 Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  The Son is God, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit.

GC

Nice explanation there based upon your take on the Trinity, however, Jesus clearly doesn't share it.  That is a VERY potent quote from Jesus.  I'm feeling less alone in my confusion over the Trinity since either most all Christians are confused about it too, or Jesus is.

 I'm not confused I understand who the Trinity is and at the Great White Throne judgement the Father will be the judge, by then all men will have been raised from the dead and changed, having new bodies that will not die, guess one might refer to us as something other than man then. Jesus does judge all and separates the goats from the sheep and the goats go before the father for finial judgement. 

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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