Ybe an atheist

[The Valkyrie]

That's not an argument, just your opinion.

So I have seen sufficient evidence to believe in a god?
Which evidence is that?

"Look at the trees!"

[Ybe]

People looking for bible passage explanation are in the wrong thread.

Anyone just claiming an assertion is  relevant logical etc doesn't make it so, unless it is a necessary conclusion following  true premises.

In the OP you used biblical versus as your rational justification for belief in your god. Therefore, biblical passages are open to discussion. 
Why are you refusing to address my rational logical and valid reason for not believing in your god who directs the killing of children?

Define "necessary conclusion". 
It is a true premise that the bible/your god indicates that children can be killed. 
Is this you dodging again? 

 "multiple gods", an assertion 8). This is not a bible passage so you should be able to address it in this thread. Please tell us about your multiple gods.

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G = (What many A's say they have no belief in).  My G is the G found in the B"
  - JOH 4:24 God [is] a Spirit.
  - ACS 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
  - 1TI 1:17 ...the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God
  - JOH 1:3 All things were made by him..
  - REV 4:8...Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
  - PSA 115:3  ...he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
  - PSA 44:6 ...beside me [there is] no God. (see Bible for details)

B= Bible (My G's book)
A = Atheism, belief in the absence of any belief in G; "One who does not believe in G" is an A.
Belief= an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.   "his belief in the value of the absence of a belief"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bible Verses are for definition
1.The above are my definitions.
2. I am not refusing to address logical arguments that are reasons,  just skip past a lot of opinions.  
3.Necessary conclusion.
P1. If X is true then Y is true
P2. X is true
(If the above premises are true then the conclusion):
C. Y is true necessarily.
4. It is a true premise that the bible/your god indicates that children can be killed.
 So? It is a true premise that people die.
5. Notes -  All G(s) are  to quote As who often say they believe not in G or gs of any kind.

[LostLocke]

Oh, the god of the Bible? Jehovah.
Why didn't you say so in the first place? That changes everything. That god definitely does not exist.
Mine is the Goddess of the Underdark, and Queen of Spiders. She goes by the name Lolth, and I know she exists. Every time you look at a spider you are seeing direct evidence of Her.

[Ybe]

If you quote the whole B great, but support your assertions logically,

Ex.
If the B says I m an A then I m an A
I'm A because vs Heingidc 2:6 says so,
C See I am an A

[brewer]

In the OP you used biblical versus as your rational justification for belief in your god. Therefore, biblical passages are open to discussion. 
Why are you refusing to address my rational logical and valid reason for not believing in your god who directs the killing of children?

Define "necessary conclusion". 
It is a true premise that the bible/your god indicates that children can be killed. 
Is this you dodging again? 

 "multiple gods", an assertion 8). This is not a bible passage so you should be able to address it in this thread. Please tell us about your multiple gods.

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G = (What many A's say they have no belief in).  My G is the G found in the B"
  - JOH 4:24 God [is] a Spirit.
  - ACS 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
  - 1TI 1:17 ...the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God
  - JOH 1:3 All things were made by him..
  - REV 4:8...Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
  - PSA 115:3  ...he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
  - PSA 44:6 ...beside me [there is] no God. (see Bible for details)

B= Bible (My G's book)
A = Atheism, belief in the absence of any belief in G; "One who does not believe in G" is an A.
Belief= an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.   "his belief in the value of the absence of a belief"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bible Verses are for definition
1.The above are my definitions.
2. I am not refusing to address logical arguments that are reasons,  just skip past a lot of opinions.  
3.Necessary conclusion.
P1. If X is true then Y is true
P2. X is true
(If the above premises are true then the conclusion):
C. Y is true  necessarily.
4. It is a true premise that the bible/your god indicates that children can be killed.
 So? It is a true premise that people die.
5. Notes -  All G(s) are  to quote As who often say they believe not in G or gs of any kind.

That's not a "necessary" conclusion, only a conclusion. It's the believers that use it's "necessary" when not necessary to prop up arguments for their god. So ya blew that one. Definition fail. 

You admit that bible verses define your god then, great. Then by definition your god provides direction for the killing of children and that is my logical rational reason for not believing in your god. Logical win.

Don't change the goal post. Yes people die all of the time. Does god give directions for people to kill others in all of these deaths? Nope. Logical fail. 

Post #258, you stated that:"Merciful G must exist as there are multiple G(s) around sounds like a logical reason to me. Your not going to tell me G isn't merciful." What are your biblical "multiple gods"?

[Ybe]

That's not an argument, just your opinion.

So I have seen sufficient evidence to believe in a god?
Which evidence is that?

I think you said you haven't seen sufficient evidence so you have seen evidence.
It is an opinion unless you can prove all evidence you have seen is not sufficient.
And that you are able to reason about evidence logically and properly.
And that you are not denying the evidence for whatever reason.

So back to the Q.

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That god definitely does not exist.

Yet, another reason to ask what logical reason do you have for being an A?

IF you spent 30 years giving reasons for your above statement, if they are illogical,l So what?

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3.Necessary conclusion.
P1. If X is true then Y is true
P2. X is true
(If the above premises are true then the conclusion):
C. Y is true  necessarily.

That's not a "necessary" conclusion, only a conclusion. It's the believers that use it's "necessary" when not necessary to prop up arguments for their god. So ya blew that one. Definition fail. 

When the premises are true and the conclusion  is the only possible conclusion that can be concluded given the premises, then you have my definition of
a "necessary" conclusion...

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IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP THESE GUYS?

I AM LEAVING AND WHEN I COME BACK I HOPE SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL CAN BE MUSTERED.

[Magilla]

Ybe

I think you said you haven't seen sufficient evidence so you have seen evidence.
It is an opinion unless you can prove all evidence you have seen is not sufficient.
And that you are able to reason about evidence logically and properly.
And that you are not denying the evidence for whatever reason.

The crux is that as an atheist, I have not seen any convincing evidence. Whatever evidence I have seen does not convince me; and yes that's an opinion.

In my set of beliefs, it is only my opinion that counts, and for everyone else, so too theirs.

If the existence of a god could be proved, and was proven, I'd believe. If there is convincing evidence, (for me) then tautologically I'd be convinced.

Until then I'm unconvinced, and I won't believe that of which I have not been convinced. That is the only rational, logical position for me.

Magilla.

[The Valkyrie]

So I have seen sufficient evidence to believe in a god?
Which evidence is that?

I think you said you haven't seen sufficient evidence so you have seen evidence.
It is an opinion unless you can prove all evidence you have seen is not sufficient.
And that you are able to reason about evidence logically and properly.
And that you are not denying the evidence for whatever reason.

So back to the Q.

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That god definitely does not exist.

Yet, another reason to ask what logical reason do you have for being an A?

IF you spent 30 years giving reasons for your above statement, if they are illogical,l So what?

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That's not a "necessary" conclusion, only a conclusion. It's the believers that use it's "necessary" when not necessary to prop up arguments for their god. So ya blew that one. Definition fail. 

When the premises are true and the conclusion  is the only possible conclusion that can be concluded given the premises, then you have my definition of
a "necessary" conclusion...

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IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP THESE GUYS?

I AM LEAVING AND WHEN I COME BACK I HOPE SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL CAN BE MUSTERED.

So, "make shit up and as long as I believe it, it has to be true and real!!"

I know a few people, professionally, who may be able to help YOU. But you have to want help.

If you bother to return, I hope you can muster something more substantial than repetitive claims with no actual support other than other unfounded claims.

[LostLocke]

Ybe

I think you said you haven't seen sufficient evidence so you have seen evidence.
It is an opinion unless you can prove all evidence you have seen is not sufficient.
And that you are able to reason about evidence logically and properly.
And that you are not denying the evidence for whatever reason.

The crux is that as an atheist, I have not seen any convincing evidence. Whatever evidence I have seen does not convince me; and yes that's an opinion.

Yep. I just realized I've been phrasing my statements improperly.
Everywhere I've said "sufficient evidence" should be replaced with "convincing evidence".

[Mystic]

They can't prove their position is rational except to themselves.

Those who are convinced there exists plenty of proofs for God can explain the disbelief of Atheists simply to be a choice to deny and not accept and submit with honesty to what they otherwise should accept.

They aren't going to discuss all the proofs that they have been presented for one, I have presented over 14 distinct arguments over the years and I believe if they honestly assessed any of them, they would cease to be Atheists.

The best argument by far is the witness argument. Let every Atheist show there understanding of it and if they can show they properly understand what I presented of it and refute it, I will at least cease to be Muslim since it's a sound argument in Quran and the one selected by God out of all argument when he says "concerning your Lord, is it not sufficient for them that your Lord is a witness on all things."