2012 - Any projections on cult and kool-aid

[reverendjeremiah]

[downbeatplumb]

Why is jesus always shown as a blonde?
Surely he'd have black hair like all the other people from the middle east.

[reverendjeremiah]

Why is jesus always shown as a blonde?
Surely he'd have black hair like all the other people from the middle east.

Are you trying to say Jesus wasnt blond haired and blue eyed? Everyone knows that is the most fairest of fair when it comes to humans... just ask Hitler.

[HeyItsZeus]

This was what Jesus probably looked like (If he even existed):

[BlackUnicorn]

He should learn how to shave.

PS: Everyone knows the world is going to end in 2013!

[Rhizomorph13]

He should learn how to shave.

PS: Everyone knows the world is going to end in 2013!

Nazerite vows are a bitch!

[BlackUnicorn]

He should learn how to shave.

PS: Everyone knows the world is going to end in 2013!

Nazerite vows are a bitch!

So is using sarcasm on the net.

[BethK]

We have a "Christian" neighbor who is 100% convinced that the world is going to end in 2012. She
seems to believe that it's a forgone conclusion, and has no debate. I decided to watch something on the 2012 hoop-da-la, so I watched "2012: Science or Superstition" at http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/2012-scie...erstition/ Of course, I had my mind already made up on the answer to that question, but I wanted a little more ammo.

Well... it took me 3 hours to get through that 1:15 documentary. I had to pause it sometimes because I
was laughing too hard. I paused it a few times to look up some of what they talked about, find it in a
reputable source (scientific, university, government), then laugh a lot more. Honestly, I haven't laughed
so hard in a long time.

"Earth going through an 'energy cloud' for the next 3000 years"? What in the universe is an "energy
cloud"? I can't find anything about such a thing on any halfway reputable site, but it's mentioned on
all sorts of Woo Woo blogs. I watched them munge together numerous beliefs from around the globe
without understanding them. The ways and reasons that this will end the world seem to use all sorts
of unlikely doomsday scenarios from solar flares to a brown dwarf companion to the sun (planet X), to
this brown dwarf hitting the sun, to a planetary alignment (didn't I hear about that with the 'Age of
Aquarius' thing in the late 1960s to the Harmonic Convergence in the late 1980s), to the poles
reversing, to the earth, sun, and "center of the Milky Way" aligning (don't they align every year as we go around the sun?) and causing a tremendous gravitational pull, to the Van Allen Belt being disrupted and causing disruption,
to (gasp) computers stop working. Didn't I hear about that with the Y2K problem?

I watched Penn & Teller's "Bullshit" episode on the Apocalypse (season 7). They had some other
nonsense that goes with it. Seems that the person mainly propagating this whole Planet X idea learned
of this during his own alien abduction experience. And, there's a claim that this happens every 3500
years or so. But.... isn't that recorded history in civilizations including the Chinese which still exists,
early Japanese history, or the Ancient Greeks or Egyptians which have written records? If it happened,
at least some of these people would have written about it, especially since they claim you can see
it with the naked eye, and all of the destruction this supposed Planet X causes when it goes through?

Then there's the Comet Elenin. Reputable scientific sites say it's coming in October 2011. The
Woo Woo sites and videos say it's coming December 2012, according to ancient prophecy. It's a
long-period comet, and should not be anything spectacular. It was just discovered December 2010.
But, there are conflicting things about it, and when it will be here (or if it already has, and is somehow
going to come back). I found disasters attributed to it in 2009.

Their science is laughable. They warn of a solar flare that will "wipe us out" "burn us to a crisp", but
our atmosphere keeps these out. We got hit with a big one in 2003 and nothing of much note happened.
They talk of "Energy Clouds"? Don't they mean "Dust Clouds", which actually do exist,
and may make the sun dimmer when we go through one, and brighter when we get out of one? Their
other claim is that 2012 will be the height of a sunspot cycle. Sorry. Both NASA and AARL (American
Radio Relay League) say that we're just off a minimum of the 11-year sunspot cycle. They claim
government conspiracy to keep this information away from us. But, a conspiracy on something this
big would leak. Amateur Radio people, for whom sunspots are of interest and concern would mention
it. Scientists, amateur astronomers, universities, and other observatories would note it. The
supposed "ripping apart" of the earth by extra gravity - whether from a planetary alignment - from these
things that either don't exist, haven't been detected, or happen routinely (planetary alignments,
sunspots, solar flares), or are from objects too distant to have any significant gravitational force
on anything on earth, much less the earth itself.

Oh yeah, the BEST on this is the planetary alignment - it's happening NOW. The height of it was
yesterday! http://www.time.com/time/health/article/...03,00.html or
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sci...ngplanets/

If they're lining up now, they won't next year. If we get through the next few days, I guess planetary
alignments don't tear the world apart, just like the one in the 1970s didn't.

I wonder how many people are going to drink the Kool Aid this time, or wind up dead with their
pockets full of quarters, or give everything away waiting for the end of the world that doesn't happen,
or other nonsense. Beliefs like these ARE dangerous.

Feeling a little guilty about laughing at the gullible,
Beth

[Cinjin]

This was what Jesus probably looked like (If he even existed):
IMAGE

This is what experts at the History Channel think Jesus looked like. (Based on the Shroud of Turin)

Go Figure ... Well at least he looks middle eastern this time.

[BethK]

This was what Jesus probably looked like (If he even existed):
IMAGE

This is what experts at the History Channel think Jesus looked like. (Based on the Shroud of Turin)

Go Figure ... Well at least he looks middle eastern this time.

"Experts" on the History Channel? The Shroud of Turin has long since been debunked as a medieval
forgery. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=32322 or
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue...shroud.htm

At best, it can show us what someone in the 14th century thought he might have looked like. The
Moors were in Europe then, so at least some Europeans would have an idea what a Middle Eastern
man would generally look like.

Beth