Jordan Peterson vs. Sam Harris in Vancouver

[bennyboy]

I post these mainly because they are interesting, but also because they will shed a lot of light on particular discussions we've already engaged in.  I'm hoping our comments will be constrained to talking about the ideas in the videos, rather than going to a general political argument among ourselves (sorry about your thread about that book, robvalue).

My impressions so far are:
1)  Bret Weinstein is an extremely good moderator.
2)  Harris is clearly a much better debater than Peterson. (at least clearly to me, others had different opinions about that)
3)  We can really see Harris put Peterson to the task about some issues, particularly his difficulty (refusal?) in answering the God question
4)  We can also hear Peterson attempt to respond to the kinds of complaints people have made in these here forums, so we don't necessarily have to speculate on his motivations, his real meaning, and so on.
5)  This kind of long-format discussion between highly intellectual opponents is of an extremely high value.

[Angrboda]

[brewer]

Got thru the first 30 minutes. Started reaching for the ice pick.

[Amarok]

Spoilers nobody won because that just talked past each other .

[bennyboy]

Spoilers nobody won because that just talked past each other .

I disagree with that assessment.

Overall, I'd say that Harris pinned Peterson on a couple points.  My favorite line (talking about the resurrection):

1:52:45
"How about this for an answer-- almost certainly not."  That moment seemed quite incisive.

1:54:10
Weinstein decides to turn the debate back to a discussion of masturbation.
Harris: "The floor is yours!"



Come on, man.  Am I the only one enjoying the high brow humor here?  

[CapnAwesome]

What's the topic they are debating? I'm not a big fan of Sam Harris, and barely familiar with Jordan Peterson, although it's crazy how much I hear his name.

[SaStrike]

Found the videos on youtube.

Currently watching part 1 and Sam Harris is "winning" so far (IMO). The guy is hilarious.

[bennyboy]

Found the videos on youtube.

Currently watching part 1 and Sam Harris is "winning" so far (IMO). The guy is hilarious.

I gotta say if it's an event judged for style, Harris is running circles around Peterson.  The level of wit is just too high.