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Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 1:34 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: He wants to play victim, confusing "presumption of innocence" and "job reviews" as being the same thing as "miss one detail, sucks to be you."

If we go by his logic, anyone who calls 911 after a crime who didn't see everything, or didn't see the perp, is automatically a liar and the police should always walk away and tell them they are fucked.

"Presumption of innocence" is now what they are hiding behind, but had no problem following a bully who shouted "LOCK HER UP" and vilified my neighbors, has vilified entire religions, attacked war heros, vilified his own intel and the free press.

She was specific, she did name a specific area between her own house and the club, just not a specific house. She did name a specific location in the house, and she did name the specific perps.

Again, if we go by his logic, when I got my nose broken by the bullies on my street, if they had not turned on each other, which they did, then by his logic, I would have been fucked. But the reason they did flip on each other, wasn't because the police blindly believed me, but because they were trained to interview everyone involved. And I wasn't even there when the juvenile court convicted the guy whom punched me in the face. I didn't have to testify because the others turned on him and I am sure the court was protecting me from more pain because I was a kid. Point is they had enough without me, in that I ended up in the hospital and the woman whose door I knocked on, and the medical report, and I am also sure they checked out each of the kids prior behavior in school too. But the fucker who broke my nose got his due process, and for anyone who claimed he did not CAN GO FUCK THEMSLEVES!

And I am also sure if their parents and lawyers wanted to push it, they could have forced me into a court to face them. But I am also sure the reason I was not subject to reliving that pain, is because the investigation did it's job and his lawyers most likely told him and his parents, if you force Brian on the stand, you will get a worse sentence than if you simply plead to a lesser charge. 

The presumption of innocence is a separate issue than the investigation itself. If we are going to blindly say one gap in a claim means the entire thing is a lie then there should be no police at all.

I would agree that the presumption of innocence does not mean that we don't investigate a claim of assault.  But this is just stuff you are making up again...  You have no clue, and should focus on your own arguments more, rather than mis-representing others.   Unless it is your intent to be dishonest.

I am not making up shit!

I had several guys surround me and the ring leader punched me in the face and broke my nose! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE! 

Now again, call me a liar, call my younger and older sister's liars, call my late mother a liar. 

I KNOW what it is like to get falsely accused of something I did not do, having nothing to do with sexual assault. I KNOW what it is like to have hundreds of students and entire staff of a private school assume my guilt of throwing a rock at a car, WHICH I DID NOT DO!  So please do not fucking lecture me on presumption of innocence.

Ford knew the general location, she knew the the level of the house she was on, she knew the perps and he had other accusers as well. If you want to claim it is up to a court to decide, that is still a separate issue. But none of my bullies should be entitled to a job if one of them suddenly shows up to a place I work today knowing what I know about what they did.

Otherwise by your logic, if I see them again, today, I am obligated to remain silent about what they did to me. FUCK YOU!
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 4:44 am)Kit Wrote: The saddest thing is that I'm seeing women post on FB that they think Ford is a liar.  What the heck is this country coming to?
This is a theme I'm seeing over and over and not really liking. What does my gender have to do with who I believe? 
Yes, women should probably be able to better imagine what it would feel like to be in Ford's position and have millions of people accuse you of lying, but at the same time, if a woman truly believes that Ford really is lying, then there's nothing sad about her voicing her opinion. However, if some woman is saying that simply because she's a Republican, even if she doesn't actually think Ford is lying, then yes, it truly is sad. 

PS before anyone goes off on me (again), I believe Ford.
The word bed actually looks like a bed. 
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 1:34 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I would agree that the presumption of innocence does not mean that we don't investigate a claim of assault.  But this is just stuff you are making up again...  You have no clue, and should focus on your own arguments more, rather than mis-representing others.   Unless it is your intent to be dishonest.

I am not making up shit!

I had several guys surround me and the ring leader punched me in the face and broke my nose! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE! 

Now again, call me a liar, call my younger and older sister's liars, call my late mother a liar. 

I KNOW what it is like to get falsely accused of something I did not do, having nothing to do with sexual assault. I KNOW what it is like to have hundreds of students and entire staff of a private school assume my guilt of throwing a rock at a car, WHICH I DID NOT DO!  So please do not fucking lecture me on presumption of innocence.

Ford knew the general location, she knew the the level of the house she was on, she knew the perps and he had other accusers as well. If you want to claim it is up to a court to decide, that is still a separate issue. But none of my bullies should be entitled to a job if one of them suddenly shows up to a place I work today knowing what I know about what they did.

Otherwise by your logic, if I see them again, today, I am obligated to remain silent about what they did to me. FUCK YOU!

I'm not saying that you made up your story.... I'm saying that you make up what you attribute to others... you do this constantly.  Perhaps you should start responding to what people actually say, rather than your made up version.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 2:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am not making up shit!

I had several guys surround me and the ring leader punched me in the face and broke my nose! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE! 

Now again, call me a liar, call my younger and older sister's liars, call my late mother a liar. 

I KNOW what it is like to get falsely accused of something I did not do, having nothing to do with sexual assault. I KNOW what it is like to have hundreds of students and entire staff of a private school assume my guilt of throwing a rock at a car, WHICH I DID NOT DO!  So please do not fucking lecture me on presumption of innocence.

Ford knew the general location, she knew the the level of the house she was on, she knew the perps and he had other accusers as well. If you want to claim it is up to a court to decide, that is still a separate issue. But none of my bullies should be entitled to a job if one of them suddenly shows up to a place I work today knowing what I know about what they did.

Otherwise by your logic, if I see them again, today, I am obligated to remain silent about what they did to me. FUCK YOU!

I'm not saying that you made up your story.... I'm saying that you make up what you attribute to others... you do this constantly.  Perhaps you should start responding to what people actually say, rather than your made up version.

A little advice and pro tip.

YOU CANT FUCKING HAVE IT BOTH WAYS ASSHOLE!

Do not fucking piss on my face and tell me it is not raining. I CANNOT FUCKING DUMB IT DOWN ANY FURTHER FOR YOU!
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 2:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 2:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I'm not saying that you made up your story.... I'm saying that you make up what you attribute to others... you do this constantly.  Perhaps you should start responding to what people actually say, rather than your made up version.

A little advice and pro tip.

YOU CANT FUCKING HAVE IT BOTH WAYS ASSHOLE!

Do not fucking piss on my face and tell me it is not raining. I CANNOT FUCKING DUMB IT DOWN ANY FURTHER FOR YOU!

I don't need you to "dumb it down"   I would be happy with reading and quoting with context and understanding.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 2:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 2:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: A little advice and pro tip.

YOU CANT FUCKING HAVE IT BOTH WAYS ASSHOLE!

Do not fucking piss on my face and tell me it is not raining. I CANNOT FUCKING DUMB IT DOWN ANY FURTHER FOR YOU!

I don't need you to "dumb it down"   I would be happy with reading and quoting with context and understanding.

If you understood, you would not be making the BULLSHIT arguments you have. Now I know why I put your ignorant ass on ignore, welcome back to to it.

If I am guilty of anything, it is assuming there is any hope for you.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 2:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 4, 2018 at 2:10 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't need you to "dumb it down"   I would be happy with reading and quoting with context and understanding.

If you understood, you would not be making the BULLSHIT arguments you have. Now I know why I put your ignorant ass on ignore, welcome back to to it.

If I am guilty of anything, it is assuming there is any hope for you.

Glad that you won't be quoting me, and going off on some out of context rant, concerning things I didn't say.   

I wish you well Brian
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
Tiz and Brian make the most sense when you have them on ignore.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
(October 4, 2018 at 2:25 pm)alpha male Wrote: Tiz and Brian make the most sense when you have them on ignore.

Brian makes a lot of claims, that are normally easily refuted or patently false or crazy, but does provide some content which can generate discussion.   I only ignore those who provide nothing useful.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
One can always rely on religious shitballs to wave their magic dicks.... er wands... and make all problems go away!

https://inveritateblog.com/2018/10/02/ju...the-judge/

Quote:Moral theology — indeed the law of God — requires us to not think any evil of him beyond what is evident. If there is insufficient evidence to make a certain judgement of guilt, then we must hold him guiltless. If there is sufficient evidence to cause suspicion of guilt, then we may lawfully suspect him. To think evil of someone without sufficient evidence is a sin of rash judgement, and it is a mortal sin if the matter is serious. This matter is certainly serious.



Who Would Jesus Rape?

This from a "bishop" in fucking Florida!  I suppose he's just another drunken raping bishop and these catholick fucks always stick together.  Bunch of scumbags.
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