Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?

[Angelina]

So tell me, what is a christian, is it someone for instance who keeps christs commands ?
Tell me your definition.

And christians are doing very little when compared to secular governments, the questions you should be asking yourself is why are your brothers and sisters starving while you have plenty, given what christ commanded you ?  You are the ones claiming a transformed life by the spirit of the same god who commanded thee things.

A Christian is someone who has received the salvation of God and invited in the Holy Spirit to make changes in them. A Christian is someone who in every way tries to follow the example of Jesus Christ.

Christians are not doing very little when compared to anyone, and Christians are very involved in politics and world affairs and we are a big part of the reason governments all over the world help feed the hungry. Starvation is a problem that requires an on-going flow of money, and that money is coming mostly from Christians who pay taxes and donate money at church. What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other 5 billion people in the world doing more to help?

[possibletarian]

A Christian is someone who has been received the salvation of God and invited in the Holy Spirit to make changes in them. A Christian is someone who in every way tries to follow the example of Jesus Christ.

Christians are not doing very little when compared to anyone, and Christians are very involved in politics and world affairs we are a big part of the reason governments all over the world help feed the hungry. Starvation is a problem that requires an on-going flow of money, and that money is coming mostly from Christians who pay taxes and donate money at church. What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other 5 billion people in the world doing more to help?

And would that example of Jesus be regarding the starving ?

Well starvation requires food not money persay, where do the prayers of those who prayer for their daily bread (as instructed by christ) go ?

For instance, what does this mean ?

Matthew 6:26:

25Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air: They do not sow or reap or gather into barns—and yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?c

28And why do you worry about clothes? Consider how the lilies of the field grow: They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his glory was adorned like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

31Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the pagans strive after all these things, and your Heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.

If those in countries starving are crying out to god, what is god's solution, does god need your money to make crops grow ? why would god need 5 people, never mind 5 billion.

And where is your evidence that christianity, as a group give more than say muslims ?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07...J_pzYglOSQ

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/musli...6C10703224

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So tell me, what is a christian, is it someone for instance who keeps christs commands ?
Tell me your definition.

And christians are doing very little when compared to secular governments, the questions you should be asking yourself is why are your brothers and sisters starving while you have plenty, given what christ commanded you ?  You are the ones claiming a transformed life by the spirit of the same god who commanded thee things.

A Christian is someone who has received the salvation of God and invited in the Holy Spirit to make changes in them. A Christian is someone who in every way tries to follow the example of Jesus Christ.

Really?  When was the last time you told your mum to piss off?  Have you smashed up a pay-day lender's office lately? Do you chop down apple trees for not producing fruit in the winter? Ever rubbed mud in the eyes of a blind person? 

If you were actually to 'follow the example of Jesus Christ', you'd be locked up for a dangerous looney.

Boru

[Angelina]

A Christian is someone who has been received the salvation of God and invited in the Holy Spirit to make changes in them. A Christian is someone who in every way tries to follow the example of Jesus Christ.

Christians are not doing very little when compared to anyone, and Christians are very involved in politics and world affairs we are a big part of the reason governments all over the world help feed the hungry. Starvation is a problem that requires an on-going flow of money, and that money is coming mostly from Christians who pay taxes and donate money at church. What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other 5 billion people in the world doing more to help?

And would that example of Jesus be regarding the starving ?

Well starvation requires food not money persay, where do the prayers of those who prayer for their daily bread (as instructed by christ) go ?

For instance, what does this mean ?

Matthew 6:26:

25Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air: They do not sow or reap or gather into barns—and yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?c

28And why do you worry about clothes? Consider how the lilies of the field grow: They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his glory was adorned like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

31Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the pagans strive after all these things, and your Heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.

If those in countries starving are crying out to god, what is god's solution, does god need your money to make crops grow ?

We grow enough food each year to feed the whole world 1.5 times over. 10 Billion people can be fed by what is currently grown each year. There should be no starving people in the world, but it does require money and action to get the food to those people, and as Christians we are doing everything we can to get this accomplished. What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other people in the world doing just as much as the Christians? If they were, we would have no starving people.

 The passage you quoted was Jesus speaking to people who were specifically instructed, as you quoted "to first seek the kingdom of God and His Righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you" Christians are also going on missions all over the world, trying to encourage every single person to accept His gift of Salvation, but not everyone is receptive.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

We grow enough food each year to feed the whole world 1.5 times over.

So, all the farmers in the world are Christians?

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other people in the world doing just as much as the Christians? If they were, we would have no starving people.

There are other people like some secular organizations:
UNICEF, Amnesty International, Doctor’s Without Borders, S.H.A.R.E., Goodwill Industries. They help people much more than Christian organizations because they don't use "obligatory part of the money" to build castles, jets, jewelry, cars etc like religious charitable organizations do.

[Angelina]

And where is your evidence that christianity, as a group give more than say muslims?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07...J_pzYglOSQ

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/musli...6C10703224

Those articles you posted are only regarding Britain, not the rest of the world. Also, Christians give at church where the money is used to help the needy in the community AND give to charities, so it is no contest even in Britain.

[unfogged]

Christians are not doing very little when compared to anyone, and Christians are very involved in politics and world affairs and we are a big part of the reason governments all over the world help feed the hungry. Starvation is a problem that requires an on-going flow of money, and that money is coming mostly from Christians who pay taxes and donate money at church. What you should ask yourself is, why aren't the other 5 billion people in the world doing more to help?

Even if I granted every one of your claims (I don't, by a long shot, but setting that aside), nothing about it would demonstrate the truth of any of the supernatural claims. There are perfectly good secular reasons to fight hunger and poverty and that wouldn't waste a lot of the effort on perpetuating unsubstantiated dogma and a lot of the money on parasitic priests and other trappings. What possible reason could I have to believe a god actually exists? Arguments from incredulity and ignorance can be skipped as they simply are not valid.

[Angelina]

There are other people like some secular organizations:
UNICEF, Amnesty International, Doctor’s Without Borders, S.H.A.R.E., Goodwill Industries. They help people much more than Christian organizations because they don't use "obligatory part of the money" to build castles, jets, jewelry, cars etc like religious charitable organizations do.

False on many fronts. You are only pointing to what amounts to a handful of people in Christianity who have mega churches, and those mega churches are all giving 80-90% of their money to charity each year, and their IRS tax forms are publicly posted to prove such.

UNICEF is run by a Christian, Henrietta H. Fore who is the executive director and who is also the CEO of the United Nations as well as a member of the Board of Directors of Christianity Today International.

SHARE is also run by the United Nations whose CEO is a Christian (see above)

Let's take a look at Goodwill Industries, since you brought it up. Goodwill pays disabled people minimum wage for hard labor and it's CEO and boardmembers are all millionaires.

Goodwill: The current President and CEO of Goodwill is Jim Gibbons, who in 2015 received a total reported compensation of $712,202.

Goodwill Omaha CEO Frank McGree was fired in 2016 after a World-Herald investigation revealed that he received between $400,000 and $930,000 annually, while more than 100 workers at his stores made less than minimum wage. (Paying employees pennies per hour, by the way, is perfectly legal thanks to a loophole in the Fair Labor Standards Act—something we’ll come back to shortly.)

Likewise, a 2013 Watchdog report found that the married couple in charge of Goodwill Industries of Eastern North Carolina, Dennis and Linda McLain, received close to $800,000 annually while employing workers with disabilities who were paid less than minimum wage.


https://www.countryliving.com/shopping/a...nonprofit/

[T0 Th3 M4X]

I guess you could always write a letter to M-W and ask them why they won't put better quality definitions in their dictionaries.  Maybe tell them why they didn't do a good enough job so they know not to make the same mistake.  Maybe they'll even recall all of their dictionaries and send out a public apology.

So you admit that the definitions are unsatisfying.
I am left just as baffled by what you say believe in as before.
Can you please clarify what you believe a god is and how it goes about "godding"

What definitions are unsatisfying?  I don't read a dictionary to in some way satisfy an urge of mine.  Dictionaries are relatively unbiased sources.  When I'm online, I mostly stick with dictionary.com and M-W.  Sometimes Cambridge or Oxford, but not nearly as much.  Sometimes when you want to apply a definition more liberally, one may define something with just a bit more depth, but all-in-all, the major ones are all pretty good.

What is godding?  Sorry, not familiar with that term, but rather than go through the dictionary spiel again, I'll just give you the opportunity to define it.