Is Belief in God ethical?

[Mystic]

It's definitely not the level of willful denial, Atheists, Theists, most people, are not that bad.

But it's still, to some degree, wrong and sinful (misses the mark of glory and high honor) to confuse truth with falsehood, because you mix falsehood with truth, and then you don't know what you know and what you don't.

Building on clear knowledge all the way, is the best and most upright way, while building on doubtful matters or conjecture, is ok, if we realize it's doubtful, but when we emotionally invest in that conjecture as knowledge and believe it to the same degree of things we know for certain, then we are confused and are prey to deceivers and liars who will mislead us.

[Minimalist]

It's not unethical.  It's just childish and silly.

A lot of people need to grow up.

[Mystic]

It's not unethical.  It's just childish and silly.

A lot of people need to grow up.

It's unethical, it's just innocently childish, like you meant to say.  It's still below our dignity and sinful (misses the mark of honor).

[vulcanlogician]

I proved it individually

You didn't prove shit, MK. Please stop derailing all of my threads. Your "proofs" suck horribly. You need to stop calling them proofs and refer to them as arguments, that is, something to be contested... an item for debate. You have good ideas. And you are (at times) incredibly thoughtful and insightful. But your constant hamfisting us with your "proofs" undermines that inherent thoughtfulness and insightfulness though.

[Mystic]

I proved it individually

You didn't prove shit, MK. Please stop derailing all of my threads. Your "proofs" suck horribly. You need to stop calling them proofs and refer to them as arguments, that is, something to be contested... an item for debate. You have good ideas. And you are (at times) incredibly thoughtful and insightful. Your constant hamfisting us with your "proofs" undermines that inherent thoughtfulness and insightfulness.

IF you believe in falsehood to the same degree of truth, you are giving lies and truth the same weight, deception and guidance the same weight, conjecture and clear proofs the same weight. This is proven and is apparent to be wrong both individual as injustice to oneself, and wrong collectively, to build on a society on lies where they can't distinguish truth from falsehood.

This is as clear as it gets. This is something a human has to get, that it's not ok to believe in falsehood with the same degree that truth based on proofs is to believed in.

[vulcanlogician]

I give up.

[no one]

vulcanlogician:
You didn't prove shit, MK. Please stop derailing all of my threads. Your "proofs" suck horribly. You need to stop calling them proofs and refer to them as arguments, that is, something to be contested... an item for debate. You have good ideas. And you are (at times) incredibly thoughtful and insightful. But your constant hamfisting us with your "proofs" undermines that inherent thoughtfulness and insightfulness.




You said hamfisting, to a Muslim. 

I like the way you think.

[Mystic]

If you value clarity over confusion, it's clear, that what I said is true.

If you can't accept this starting point, then you will mix falsehood with truth. We act according to our values, whether they are right or wrong, needs reflection often and sometimes they don't but often they do.

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IF you are confused, you can be used by people like Hitler. You have to value seeing truth and ignoring falsehood and not trusting conjecture. You have to. That has to be the basis. Yes, most humans are failing in this regard. But they aren't willfully rejecting truth, they just haven't been shown a way to distinguish truth from falsehood clearly.

[Angrboda]

If you value clarity over confusion, it's clear, that what I said is true.

If you can't accept this starting point, then you will mix falsehood with truth. We act according to our values, whether they are right or wrong, needs reflection often and sometimes they don't but often they do.

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IF you are confused, you can be used by people like Hitler.  You have to value seeing truth and ignoring falsehood and not trusting conjecture. You have to. That has to be the basis. Yes, most humans are failing in this regard. But they aren't willfully rejecting truth, they just haven't been shown a way to distinguish truth from falsehood clearly.

[Minimalist]

You have good ideas.

Really?   Where?