Are you responsible?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You shouldn't be responsible for drag-racing in a school zone, right?

[Pat Mustard]

I'm trying to remember the specifics, but there was that case where a man was at a party and his friends used his car to perform a crime (a murder, drug deal, not sure) and the owner of the car was jailed for aiding the crime even though he did not know it was going to happen.

I need to find the link for it though.

Joint enterprise laws are a pile of shite.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Some of my classmates in high school ran joint enterprises.

[Brian37]

You shouldn't be  responsible for drag-racing in a school zone, right?

I actually am anti car. I think all transportation should be outlawed.

I know, I used to be a rebel teen. (True Story).... I once took my 1970 Dodge Dart. Mind you, that was not in 1970, it was an old car I bought in the mid 80s. But I once took it to my high school, and the extended branches of the hallways had outdoor gaps of grass between them. I did doughnuts on that grass and tore the lawn up.

OH WAIT... No, I am not anti car. I simply grew the fuck up and took driving seriously and stopped doing stupid shit.

[Rev. Rye]

Here’s An article from a legal journal talking about this:

https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/natio...282958.htm

The short answer is “No.” The long answer is




The worst is that you might be held liable for leaving the car running and unattended.

[onlinebiker]

Here’s An article from a legal journal talking about this:

https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/natio...282958.htm

The short answer is “No.” The long answer is




The worst is that you might be held liable for leaving the car running and unattended.

Thanks. Good info there.

[Yonadav]

He ultimately wants to convince himself that if his version of "responsibility" with cars in his example works, why wouldn't it work with guns? The problem isn't "responsibility".  The problem with both guns and cars, is that marketing sells humans a sense of entitlement, and that, far too often can lead people, with both guns and cars to not take those products seriously. But the difference between a gun and a car, is that if you leave your keys in your car and it gets stolen, while still a lapse in judgment, a car cannot be taken 32 stories up into a hotel to murder 52 music concert goers.

   You are happy when people are killed with guns, because it gives you another opportunity for cheap moral superiority. Your outrage is all about you feeling good about you.

[Brian37]

He ultimately wants to convince himself that if his version of "responsibility" with cars in his example works, why wouldn't it work with guns? The problem isn't "responsibility".  The problem with both guns and cars, is that marketing sells humans a sense of entitlement, and that, far too often can lead people, with both guns and cars to not take those products seriously. But the difference between a gun and a car, is that if you leave your keys in your car and it gets stolen, while still a lapse in judgment, a car cannot be taken 32 stories up into a hotel to murder 52 music concert goers.

   You are happy when people are killed with guns, because it gives you another opportunity for cheap moral superiority. Your outrage is all about you feeling good about you.

Nonsense! 

I hate seeing stories of shootings and murder. I most certainly did not love knowing my drunk dad shot his 38 with me in the room when I was a kid.  

This is the old, "You want to take away my right to protect myself" BULLSHIT.

Why is it Australia WHICH STILL ALLOWS firearm ownership does not have the firearm violence we do? Because they don't have their heads up their asses like we do.

I am not happy one fucking bit hearing about bars or schools or holy places or concerts getting shot up. I am not happy with the amount of suicides or domestic violence either. 

Just like Nader wasn't saying in the 70s, "ban all cars" but. "Currently your products suck".

Our laws SUCK currently. If they worked like the right claimed we'd be the safest nation in the world.

[Mermaid]

nevermind

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He ultimately wants to convince himself that if his version of "responsibility" with cars in his example works, why wouldn't it work with guns? The problem isn't "responsibility".  The problem with both guns and cars, is that marketing sells humans a sense of entitlement, and that, far too often can lead people, with both guns and cars to not take those products seriously. But the difference between a gun and a car, is that if you leave your keys in your car and it gets stolen, while still a lapse in judgment, a car cannot be taken 32 stories up into a hotel to murder 52 music concert goers.

   You are happy when people are killed with guns, because it gives you another opportunity for cheap moral superiority. Your outrage is all about you feeling good about you.

Pious much?