Nukes: post your imagined scenario of the next war

[The Valkyrie]

1. The Vatican is destroyed in a huge explosion. Evidence points to Muslim extremists or a secret international cabal of choirboys. There are riots all over the world as angry catholics attack Jewish targets.

2. Several weeks later Mecca is destroyed. Evidence indicates no Israeli involvement but angry Catholics. Muslims around the world attack Jewish targets.

3. Iran accuses Saudi Arabia of not being able to protect Islam's holy sites and attacks Jerusalem.

4. Israel responds by magically making Tehran disappear suddenly. Saudi Arabia loudly condemns both attacks and, in response, step up their bombing of Yemen.

5. Russia moves to defend its ally Iran. Drawing the US into a possible confrontation.

6 a peace conference in Geneva suddenly ends when all delegates die mysteriously moments before signing the peace accord.

7. Turkey invades Bangladesh.

8. A very rude phone call, apparently from the Indian government, is received in Pakistan. Parkistan respond by invading Kashmir.

9. A violent confrontation between Pakistan and India is almost averted by China offering to broker peace.

10. Beijing destroyed apparently by Pakistani, Indian, and Israeli missiles.

11. Full out war starts in Asia. Vietnam look on and say "Fuck, not again!" North Korea are suspiciously quiet.

12. Nukes start flying in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and North America.

13. Feeling left out, Australia invades NZ.

[WinterHold]

The need for resources will make alliances and loyalties swing from north to south. I don't think anybody would survive a nuclear winter+global warming mixed together. It will be our extinction; or so I think.

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Isn't the nuclear winter a type of global warming? but instead of temperature rising, it is dropping. Or the clouds from the explosions will block the sun rays, but the heat our planet held would never go out, so earth would become one big oven.

Not the point.

The term "nuclear winter" does have to do with blocking out the sun. But the mass initial death will be from vaporizing humans at ground zero. That will also knock out communication and transportation. The next worry would be radiation of food sources and water. Mega volcanos have caused climate change too. Blocking out the sun, on top of the radiation will kill off lots of food sources, on top of the radiation.

Instead of speculating who will start what, how about offering up solutions to avoid what nobody in humanity should want.

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I see you guys are already talking nuclear winter. The scenario that I was going to post is that some especially insane environmentalists get the idea that a limited nuclear exchange will cause a mild nuclear winter and drastically reduce the global population. So they start agitating tension between Pakistan and India to get that result.

For someone who claims to have voted for Obama, you sure talk like a libertarian.

Global warming is not  hoax. It is fact. It is not insane to want to protect the only home all 7 billion of us live on.

A nuclear war WILL NOT be limited. It will be a domino effect.  There are approximately 14,500 nuclear weapons from both friend and foe alike worldwide.

It may not kill us to the point of extinction, although I think it could. But at a minimum it would be global, and would knock humanity, if we survived initially, to the point of killing our neighbors for resources.

"Insane environmentalists" Yea, why would I want pesky things like clean water, clean food, and less drastic weather?

Kudos for the bold statement in your reply to Yonadav, that's a very very big possibility. Remaining humans -if any remained-would be natural enemies.

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The map doesn't load on the link.

Boru

It loads just fine at my end, the problem is from your browser; I think -maybe you're blocking script?-.

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1.  The Vatican is destroyed in a huge explosion.  Evidence points to Muslim extremists or a secret international cabal of choirboys.  There are riots all over the world as angry catholics attack Jewish targets.

2.  Several weeks later Mecca is destroyed.  Evidence indicates no Israeli involvement but angry Catholics.  Muslims around the world attack Jewish targets.

3.  Iran accuses Saudi Arabia of not being able to protect Islam's holy sites and attacks Jerusalem.

4.  Israel responds by magically making Tehran disappear suddenly.  Saudi Arabia loudly condemns both attacks and, in response, step up their bombing of Yemen.

5.  Russia moves to defend its ally Iran.  Drawing the US into a possible confrontation.

6  a peace conference in Geneva suddenly ends when all delegates die mysteriously moments before signing the peace aoord.

7.  Turkey invades Bangladesh.

8.  A very rude phone call, apparently from the Indian government, is received in Pakistan.  Parkistan respond by invading Kashmir.

9.  A violent confrontation between Pakistan and India is almost averted by China offering to broker peace.  

10.  Beijing destroyed apparently by Pakistani, Indian, and Israeli missiles.

11.  Full out war starts in Asia.  Vietnam look on and say "Fuck, not again!"  North Korea are suspiciously quiet.

12. Nukes start flying in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and North America.

13.  Feeling left out, Australia invades NZ.

14.The new kingdom of "RaliaZanda" that resulted from AUS invasion of NZ, invades Iceland
15.The new empire of "RiceLanda" is born.

[The Valkyrie]

Not the point.

The term "nuclear winter" does have to do with blocking out the sun. But the mass initial death will be from vaporizing humans at ground zero. That will also knock out communication and transportation. The next worry would be radiation of food sources and water. Mega volcanos have caused climate change too. Blocking out the sun, on top of the radiation will kill off lots of food sources, on top of the radiation.

Instead of speculating who will start what, how about offering up solutions to avoid what nobody in humanity should want.

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For someone who claims to have voted for Obama, you sure talk like a libertarian.

Global warming is not  hoax. It is fact. It is not insane to want to protect the only home all 7 billion of us live on.

A nuclear war WILL NOT be limited. It will be a domino effect.  There are approximately 14,500 nuclear weapons from both friend and foe alike worldwide.

It may not kill us to the point of extinction, although I think it could. But at a minimum it would be global, and would knock humanity, if we survived initially, to the point of killing our neighbors for resources.

"Insane environmentalists" Yea, why would I want pesky things like clean water, clean food, and less drastic weather?

Kudos for the bold statement in your reply to Yonadav, that's a very very big possibility. Remaining humans -if any remained-would be natural enemies.

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The map doesn't load on the link.

Boru

It loads just fine at my end, the problem is from your browser; I think -maybe you're blocking script?-.

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1.  The Vatican is destroyed in a huge explosion.  Evidence points to Muslim extremists or a secret international cabal of choirboys.  There are riots all over the world as angry catholics attack Jewish targets.

2.  Several weeks later Mecca is destroyed.  Evidence indicates no Israeli involvement but angry Catholics.  Muslims around the world attack Jewish targets.

3.  Iran accuses Saudi Arabia of not being able to protect Islam's holy sites and attacks Jerusalem.

4.  Israel responds by magically making Tehran disappear suddenly.  Saudi Arabia loudly condemns both attacks and, in response, step up their bombing of Yemen.

5.  Russia moves to defend its ally Iran.  Drawing the US into a possible confrontation.

6  a peace conference in Geneva suddenly ends when all delegates die mysteriously moments before signing the peace aoord.

7.  Turkey invades Bangladesh.

8.  A very rude phone call, apparently from the Indian government, is received in Pakistan.  Parkistan respond by invading Kashmir.

9.  A violent confrontation between Pakistan and India is almost averted by China offering to broker peace.  

10.  Beijing destroyed apparently by Pakistani, Indian, and Israeli missiles.

11.  Full out war starts in Asia.  Vietnam look on and say "Fuck, not again!"  North Korea are suspiciously quiet.

12. Nukes start flying in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and North America.

13.  Feeling left out, Australia invades NZ.

14.The new kingdom of "RaliaZanda" that resulted from AUS invasion of NZ, invades Iceland
15.The new empire of "RiceLanda" is born.

Tl/dr?

Beccs steals nukes and tricks world into nuclear annihilation.

[Anomalocaris]

Kudos for the bold statement in your reply to Yonadav, that's a very very big possibility. Remaining humans -if any remained-would be natural enemies.

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It loads just fine at my end, the problem is from your browser; I think -maybe you're blocking script?-.

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14.The new kingdom of "RaliaZanda" that resulted from AUS invasion of NZ, invades Iceland
15.The new empire of "RiceLanda" is born.

Tl/dr?

Beccs steals nukes and tricks world into nuclear annihilation.

But what about the thousands of generations of potential victims yet to be born?

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Not the point.

The term "nuclear winter" does have to do with blocking out the sun. But the mass initial death will be from vaporizing humans at ground zero. That will also knock out communication and transportation. The next worry would be radiation of food sources and water. Mega volcanos have caused climate change too. Blocking out the sun, on top of the radiation will kill off lots of food sources, on top of the radiation.

Instead of speculating who will start what, how about offering up solutions to avoid what nobody in humanity should want.

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For someone who claims to have voted for Obama, you sure talk like a libertarian.

Global warming is not  hoax. It is fact. It is not insane to want to protect the only home all 7 billion of us live on.

A nuclear war WILL NOT be limited. It will be a domino effect.  There are approximately 14,500 nuclear weapons from both friend and foe alike worldwide.

It may not kill us to the point of extinction, although I think it could. But at a minimum it would be global, and would knock humanity, if we survived initially, to the point of killing our neighbors for resources.

"Insane environmentalists" Yea, why would I want pesky things like clean water, clean food, and less drastic weather?

Kudos for the bold statement in your reply to Yonadav, that's a very very big possibility. Remaining humans -if any remained-would be natural enemies.

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The map doesn't load on the link.

Boru

It loads just fine at my end, the problem is from your browser; I think -maybe you're blocking script?-.

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1.  The Vatican is destroyed in a huge explosion.  Evidence points to Muslim extremists or a secret international cabal of choirboys.  There are riots all over the world as angry catholics attack Jewish targets.

2.  Several weeks later Mecca is destroyed.  Evidence indicates no Israeli involvement but angry Catholics.  Muslims around the world attack Jewish targets.

3.  Iran accuses Saudi Arabia of not being able to protect Islam's holy sites and attacks Jerusalem.

4.  Israel responds by magically making Tehran disappear suddenly.  Saudi Arabia loudly condemns both attacks and, in response, step up their bombing of Yemen.

5.  Russia moves to defend its ally Iran.  Drawing the US into a possible confrontation.

6  a peace conference in Geneva suddenly ends when all delegates die mysteriously moments before signing the peace aoord.

7.  Turkey invades Bangladesh.

8.  A very rude phone call, apparently from the Indian government, is received in Pakistan.  Parkistan respond by invading Kashmir.

9.  A violent confrontation between Pakistan and India is almost averted by China offering to broker peace.  

10.  Beijing destroyed apparently by Pakistani, Indian, and Israeli missiles.

11.  Full out war starts in Asia.  Vietnam look on and say "Fuck, not again!"  North Korea are suspiciously quiet.

12. Nukes start flying in Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and North America.

13.  Feeling left out, Australia invades NZ.

14.The new kingdom of "RaliaZanda" that resulted from AUS invasion of NZ, invades Iceland
15.The new empire of "RiceLanda" is born.

But who will take charge of eradicating South America? Why is Antarctica left suspiciously unnuked? Easter island?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Humans act like humans. Cats and dogs expel them from the planet.

[Anomalocaris]

Like cats and dogs will survive us.

[WinterHold]

Tl/dr?

Beccs steals nukes and tricks world into nuclear annihilation.

A hero from "RiceLanda" would grow up and stop your plan.

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But who will take charge of eradicating South America?   Why is Antarctica left suspiciously unnuked?  Easter island?

South America is not dependent at all; it is cut between warlords who sold their countries for foreign countries and individuals.
From the Drug Cartels to dirty politicians, the continent is gone. You can read the diaries of Che Guevara for more details and also see a small portion of what the cartels are doing.

It shows too in the current Venezuela events.

[The Valkyrie]

Tl/dr?

Beccs steals nukes and tricks world into nuclear annihilation.

But what about the thousands of generations of potential victims yet to be born?

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Kudos for the bold statement in your reply to Yonadav, that's a very very big possibility. Remaining humans -if any remained-would be natural enemies.

---

It loads just fine at my end, the problem is from your browser; I think -maybe you're blocking script?-.

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14.The new kingdom of "RaliaZanda" that resulted from AUS invasion of NZ, invades Iceland
15.The new empire of "RiceLanda" is born.

But who will take charge of eradicating South America? Why is Antarctica left suspiciously unnuked? Easter island?

South America will eradicate itself and penguins are number three on my extinction list after humans and hippies.

[Yonadav]

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I see you guys are already talking nuclear winter. The scenario that I was going to post is that some especially insane environmentalists get the idea that a limited nuclear exchange will cause a mild nuclear winter and drastically reduce the global population. So they start agitating tension between Pakistan and India to get that result.

For someone who claims to have voted for Obama, you sure talk like a libertarian.

Global warming is not  hoax. It is fact. It is not insane to want to protect the only home all 7 billion of us live on.

A nuclear war WILL NOT be limited. It will be a domino effect.  There are approximately 14,500 nuclear weapons from both friend and foe alike worldwide.

It may not kill us to the point of extinction, although I think it could. But at a minimum it would be global, and would knock humanity, if we survived initially, to the point of killing our neighbors for resources.

"Insane environmentalists" Yea, why would I want pesky things like clean water, clean food, and less drastic weather?

You have extreme reading comprehension problems. "some especially insane environmentalists" does not mean that environmentalists are insane.

[Peebothuhlu]

I kind of think it's fitting to the starting theme of the thread.