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A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
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A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
I recently saw this clip:



 
What are your thoughts about it? Do you agree? If someone close to you says that you should change who you are because of what others think, would you use the argument from this video?
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"

Charlie Chaplin
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
(April 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: What are your thoughts about it? Do you agree? If someone close to you says that you should change who you are because of what others think, would you use the argument from this video?

I don't worry too much about what others think. Some people will agree and others will disagree on just about anything.

I'm not sure that I even have much of a reputation to be concerned with. I try to be well-informed and honest, which is about all I can do anyway.

However, if scientists (or my wife) say I'm wrong about something, then I'm concerned.
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
At onetime - the vast majority of people thought the earth to be flat and at the center of the universe. Doctors thought washing their hands before surgery was a bad idea. Man could never fly. Tomatos are poisonous. 


Yeah - majority rule.


What could go wrong?
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
'Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).' - Twain

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
It depends on what you mean by “don’t worry about what others think.” Unfortunately the those less socially attuned, interacting with others is a pretty important part of life. If you can’t deal with people, or at least feign the ability of dealing with people, you’ll, more than likely, never advance in any aspect of society.

If that doesn’t interest you, then so be it, but that tends to be how it is. Kids who don’t get along well with other or those who are too shy to socialize with others tend to be singled out and picked on, and bullying causes many children to grow up with self-esteem issues and a resentment towards “society” in general. Those people, sometimes, end up depressed, anxious or just generally unhappy.

As an adult this type of bullying can continue, though often in subtler ways, and it is still horrible for someone’s psyche as a grown up.

I think the phrase “don’t worry about what other people think” is often repeated by people who don’t really understand the importance of socialization. Even as an adult, you need to be around other people to some extent to stay sane. This whole “I’m a loner” thing is more times than not complete bullshit and usually espoused by people who can’t make friends rather than people who don’t want friends. Everyone wants friends.

That being said, I don’t think we should allow what others think to the point where it makes us change what we value on a fundamental level. If your nervous ticks make other people uncomfortable, that might be something you want to try to work on. But if you’re thinking about changing career paths because some people you know, or maybe don’t know, think the job you’ve chosen is stupid/worthless etc. then that’s pretty ridiculous.

That being said, we obviously all have to find our “line” for what we’re willing to change for others. If you don’t value social interactions as much as others, you may not care about changing certain behaviors. Which is fine. But the whole “idgaf what anyone thinks I do what I want” thing is almost always a complete lie. Usually told by people who are society’s “losers” who were never popular with the opposite (or maybe same) sex, never had a lot of friends, probably didn’t attend too many parties, etc. people love to act like this shit doesn’t matter, but it doesn’t. Humans, in general, are materialistic and shallow as hell. Myself included. I just don’t lie to myself about it.

So yea, I care what people think, to an extent. But will I change who I am on a fundamental level for others? No, obviously not.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
Depends on what/who the others/majority are, how much you value them as individuals/groups, and what they are telling you. 

I value quite a lot of the thoughts of christians that I interact with, until .............. you guessed it, they start in on their religion (or my lack of it).
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#7
RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
There are many reasons not to worry!
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
'When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect.' - Mark Twain

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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It seems like a lot of people are the majority pretending to be the minority so they could fit in better with the majority.  Cool
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RE: A reason not to worry what the majority thinks
I'm deeply distrustful of anyone advocating for conformity because they might become Losers or whatever. Social cohesion means respecting differing views because no one thinks alike. I think that Egodeath's little spin above is just a fucking pathetic excuse and advocacy of this conformity of behavior. If a friend of mine just "talked me after my mouth" I'd stop being friends with that person, because I value independent thought far greater than any fear of social awkwardness around people.

My friends, although few, are beautiful people who do not wish to conform to avoid "bullying", which is a cowardly reason on the face of it.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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