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RE: Ecology topic
July 7, 2019 at 6:37 am
(July 7, 2019 at 1:26 am)Amarok Wrote: (May 16, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So, this New Green Deal is a fascist/socialist plot to make 102" TV illegal and take our guns? And they are coming for your cows
(June 13, 2019 at 3:10 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: HBO is offering free documentary "Ice on Fire (2019)" - by HBO. Free to watch, even if you don't subscribe to their service
https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/ice-on-fire
It's narrated by Leonardo DiCaprio and it doesn't just address the problem but also solutions like carbon suckers. He is a bad choice because his own credibility is compromised . But I will still take an hypocrite over a denialist
(June 10, 2019 at 3:44 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
Ah yes Benny Boop
The guy who thinks being able to use wind and over again violates the laws of thermodynamics and called the beetles song called imagine unrealistic . Truly the greatest mind of our age ... 
Just to pick this particular nit, there is no Beatles song called 'Imagine'.
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July 7, 2019 at 10:35 am
(July 7, 2019 at 6:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 7, 2019 at 1:26 am)Amarok Wrote: And they are coming for your cows
He is a bad choice because his own credibility is compromised . But I will still take an hypocrite over a denialist
Ah yes Benny Boop
The guy who thinks being able to use wind and over again violates the laws of thermodynamics and called the beetles song called imagine unrealistic . Truly the greatest mind of our age ...
Just to pick this particular nit, there is no Beatles song called 'Imagine'.
Boru True it wasn't created by the other band members . But I consider John Lennon the soul of the Beatles
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July 7, 2019 at 10:43 am
(July 7, 2019 at 10:35 am)Amarok Wrote: (July 7, 2019 at 6:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Just to pick this particular nit, there is no Beatles song called 'Imagine'.
Boru True it wasn't created by the other band members . But I consider John Lennon the soul of the Beatles
Consider him anything you like, but the Beatles broke up before he and Yoko wrote 'Imagine'. Since the Beatles didn't exist, it couldn't have been a Beatles song.
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July 7, 2019 at 10:46 am
(July 7, 2019 at 10:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 7, 2019 at 10:35 am)Amarok Wrote: True it wasn't created by the other band members . But I consider John Lennon the soul of the Beatles
Consider him anything you like, but the Beatles broke up before he and Yoko wrote 'Imagine'. Since the Beatles didn't exist, it couldn't have been a Beatles song.
Boru I already acknowledged that
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July 7, 2019 at 10:47 am
(July 7, 2019 at 10:46 am)Amarok Wrote: (July 7, 2019 at 10:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Consider him anything you like, but the Beatles broke up before he and Yoko wrote 'Imagine'. Since the Beatles didn't exist, it couldn't have been a Beatles song.
Boru I already acknowledged that
Not really. You said it wasn't created by the other band members.
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July 7, 2019 at 11:04 am
(July 7, 2019 at 10:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 7, 2019 at 10:46 am)Amarok Wrote: I already acknowledged that
Not really. You said it wasn't created by the other band members.
Boru Yes which directly implies it wasn't made by the band . Then I stated my opinion that John was the soul of the Beatles. Thus acknowledging it was created by him and not the other band members .
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July 7, 2019 at 11:08 am
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(June 10, 2019 at 5:27 am)Sal Wrote: I'm pessimistic. We won't change until after it's too late and it will take several generations to correct it.
The estimate for how long it takes for full effects anthropogenic global warming to Peter out and global temperature to revert to base line trend seems to range from several thousand years to several hundred thousand years, a huge range that regrettably does not include “several”, presumably single digit, generations.
The problem with “green new deal” is it presupposes it has an constituency large enough so that it can large ignore or pay only the most unconvincing lip service to the short term interests of all other constituencies. It preaches to the chore and probably sound particularly thrilling to the chore because the chore probably feels to them the other side has been doing this successfully to them all along. But keep in mind the reality is the inroad the other side has made can only be made with very skillful and very opportunistic and cynical recruitment effort that took 60 years.
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July 10, 2019 at 2:06 am
Sir David Attenborough had a meeting with MPs about climate change
"We cannot be radical enough in dealing with these issues at the moment."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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July 21, 2019 at 6:31 am
Wow! Actual farms in the middle of the desert.
This farm produces 15% of Australia's annual tomatoes using solar power and seawater. It uses zero fossil fuels, zero soil, zero pesticides, zero groundwater.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Ecology topic
August 1, 2019 at 5:22 am
Russian army ordered to tackle massive wildfires
Wildfires in Russia have been raging for weeks, caused by record high temperatures combined with lightning and strong winds.
About three million hectares (7.4 million acres) have been affected, in what Greenpeace is describing as an "ecological catastrophe".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49182554
One dead in Kentucky after gas line explosion shoots fireball into sky
One person is dead in central Kentucky after a gas line ruptured and produced a fireball that could be seen around the region early Thursday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1038096
Greenland Is Melting Away Before Our Eyes
Amid an ongoing heat wave, new data show the Greenland ice sheet is in the middle of its biggest melt season in recorded history. It’s the latest worrying signal climate change is accelerating far beyond the worst fears of even climate scientists.
The record-setting heat wave that sweltered northern Europe last week has moved north over the critically vulnerable Greenland ice sheet, triggering temperatures this week that are as much as 25 to 30 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/po...lt-865803/
An explosion and fire at an Exxon Mobil oil refinery in Texas on Wednesday left 37 people with minor injuries, in the latest of a series of petrochemical industry blazes this year in the Houston area.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/...y-64683880
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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