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Bones and Bone Marrow
#21
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 1:48 pm)LostLocke Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 4:18 am)Haipule Wrote: If I say that the rib bone of a human contains multipotent stem cells: science doesn't disagree.
Correct. Sort of.
The biggest detail, you neglected to mention, is that the quantity in marrow is very small. Plus, those stem cells are not "potent". They have a limited range as to what they can become.

(July 28, 2019 at 4:18 am)Haipule Wrote: If I say that that bone will grow back if the surgeon leaves the sheath that houses it intact: science doesn't disagree.
Bones are 'just bones', they don't come inside a sheath. If you mean the marrow inside the bone will regenerate, then yes, that is correct.
If you're saying that a bone will grow back if it's removed, science totally disagrees. A removed bone is gone, permanently. And a removed rib will not "regrow" into a human, it will just die. At even a rediculous best case scenerio, the rib will just grow more rib.
Rib bones do grow back if removed. It takes 2-3 months and will reattach to the spine and be as good as new once healed. If a persons face is destroyed in an accident, the surgeon will remove a rib to reconstruct the face. If they need more bone, in a few months they will remove the same rib which grows back. They will remove it as many times as is necessary. 
Google it.
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#22
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Haipule Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 1:48 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Correct. Sort of.
The biggest detail, you neglected to mention, is that the quantity in marrow is very small. Plus, those stem cells are not "potent". They have a limited range as to what they can become.

Bones are 'just bones', they don't come inside a sheath. If you mean the marrow inside the bone will regenerate, then yes, that is correct.
If you're saying that a bone will grow back if it's removed, science totally disagrees. A removed bone is gone, permanently. And a removed rib will not "regrow" into a human, it will just die. At even a rediculous best case scenerio, the rib will just grow more rib.
Rib bones do grow back if removed. It takes 2-3 months and will reattach to the spine and be as good as new once healed. If a persons face is destroyed in an accident, the surgeon will remove a rib to reconstruct the face. If they need more bone, in a few months they will remove the same rib which grows back. They will remove it as many times as is necessary. 
Google it.
I did.

"Bones do repair themselves to some extent. But they can’t regenerate or replace themselves fully for the same reason that we can’t grow ourselves a new lung or an extra eye."
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#23
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
I have no clue what all of this is about, but the Mathilda-worshipping language gave me a bad vibe. Just a head's up that if she is uncomfortable with that or tells you to ease up, I'm on her side. The love language seems fairly unsolicited.
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#24
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
@Shell B

Ditto.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#25
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 6:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Shell B

Ditto.

Count me in.  Just waiting for a report...

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#26
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 6:28 pm)Shell B Wrote: I have no clue what all of this is about, but the Mathilda-worshipping language gave me a bad vibe. Just a head's up that if she is uncomfortable with that or tells you to ease up, I'm on her side. The love language seems fairly unsolicited.
I'm sorry Shell B but Mathilda and I have had this banter for a long time. If she is at all offended, I am on your side as well.

(July 28, 2019 at 7:02 pm)Haipule Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 6:28 pm)Shell B Wrote: I have no clue what all of this is about, but the Mathilda-worshipping language gave me a bad vibe. Just a head's up that if she is uncomfortable with that or tells you to ease up, I'm on her side. The love language seems fairly unsolicited.
I'm sorry Shell B but Mathilda and I have had this banter for a long time. If she is at all offended, I am on your side as well.
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#29
RE: Messin' With Atheists
November 19, 2017 at 7:19 am

I'm going to accept any argument that says I'm a god no matter how flawed it was.
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".

I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9

I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!

When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!

I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
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#27
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Haipule Wrote: Rib bones do grow back if removed. It takes 2-3 months and will reattach to the spine and be as good as new once healed. If a persons face is destroyed in an accident, the surgeon will remove a rib to reconstruct the face. If they need more bone, in a few months they will remove the same rib which grows back. They will remove it as many times as is necessary. 
Google it.

Provide the source or, as far as I'm concerned, you're talking outta your ass again.

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#28
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 6:09 pm)LostLocke Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Haipule Wrote: Rib bones do grow back if removed. It takes 2-3 months and will reattach to the spine and be as good as new once healed. If a persons face is destroyed in an accident, the surgeon will remove a rib to reconstruct the face. If they need more bone, in a few months they will remove the same rib which grows back. They will remove it as many times as is necessary. 
Google it.
I did.

"Bones do repair themselves to some extent. But they can’t regenerate or replace themselves fully for the same reason that we can’t grow ourselves a new lung or an extra eye."
Dude! I'm only taking about the rib! Type into Google: Do rib bones grow back?

(July 28, 2019 at 7:18 pm)wyzas Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Haipule Wrote: Rib bones do grow back if removed. It takes 2-3 months and will reattach to the spine and be as good as new once healed. If a persons face is destroyed in an accident, the surgeon will remove a rib to reconstruct the face. If they need more bone, in a few months they will remove the same rib which grows back. They will remove it as many times as is necessary. 
Google it.

Provide the source or, as far as I'm concerned, you're talking outta your ass again.
https://creation.com/regenerating-ribs-a...issing-rib

That link is from a creationist website and I did that on purpose. I could have given you a secular website as well. I am NOT a creationist or, YEC! God just said He made stuff. He didn't create a thing! Create into English is a Latin transliteration of creatura. It has no bases in the actual verbs used in the original languages of the bible. Adam was asah(formed). Eve was banah(built). The universe is barah(spoken). Do I as a theist have to tell you there's no such thing as creation or a creator?
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".

I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9

I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!

When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!

I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
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#29
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
Bone will regrow if parts of the living bone is still there and there is a matrix or scaffold which tells the bone where to grow.

This is how broken ends of bones can stitch them selves together.

Missing bone will not regrow if the bone tissue has died, or the bone is removed all together.  

The notion that a removed rib will grow back is bullshit.

If the rib is completely removed.  There will be nothing in the body that would be signaled to grow new bone there.    If the rib is partially removed, and if the remaining portion of the rib is still supplied with blood and alive, the live bone may attempt to regrow, but unless a new matrix or scaffold is placed where the missing bone had been, the remaining bone tissue would have no way to develop into a new rib.  It would simply grow a lump to close off the severed end of the remaining bone, sort of like bone scar tissue rather than new bone.

Implanting matrix or scaffolding to enable missing parts of bone or organ to grow back is on the cutting edge of reconstructive medicine.
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#30
RE: Bones and Bone Marrow
(July 28, 2019 at 9:57 pm)Haipule Wrote:
(July 28, 2019 at 6:09 pm)LostLocke Wrote: I did.

"Bones do repair themselves to some extent. But they can’t regenerate or replace themselves fully for the same reason that we can’t grow ourselves a new lung or an extra eye."
Dude! I'm only taking about the rib! Type into Google: Do rib bones grow back?
Dude! Ribs *are* bones. There's nothing special about them.
If a removed rib grew back as a full rib, then arms and legs would do the same. Amputees wouldn't exist.
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