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Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:23 pm
Gonna start off by saying that, while I do find 'Star Trek' enjoyable, I'm not really into 'Star Trek'. With that in mind, I'll probably get some of the following terminology wrong. If so, it isn't done out of meanness, it is done innocently out of ignorance. Please don't threaten me with your phaser.
Ok. On DS9, they have a collection of miniature shuttles. People from the station take a trip to a planet and all of them beam down. When they're done with whatever it was they went to do, they hit those little radio buttons on their uniforms and the shuttle's on-board computer beams them back up. But when people are on the station (or a ship) and they need to beam in or out, there's always a human operating the transporter control gizmo.
Question: If the computer on a mini-shuttle can beam people around, what can't the (obviously) much more powerful computers on a ship or a station do the same thing without human intervention?
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:25 pm
Yoda wouldn't allow such things.
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:40 pm
I’m assuming that due to the limited space available on a runabout, and the fact that the entire crew seems to be needed on the surface, that we see it regularly because a more automated system is required.
I would suspect that the larger ships are capable of doing it, but they have crew do it manually in case something goes wrong.
Anyway, what would transporter techs do all day?
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:54 pm
(August 13, 2019 at 4:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I’m assuming that due to the limited space available on a runabout, and the fact that the entire crew seems to be needed on the surface, that we see it regularly because a more automated system is required.
I would suspect that the larger ships are capable of doing it, but they have crew do it manually in case something goes wrong.
Anyway, what would transporter techs do all day? Oh big ship can do automated transports like site to site transports and you hit the nail on the head on the safety comment .
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:56 pm
(August 13, 2019 at 4:54 pm)Amarok Wrote: (August 13, 2019 at 4:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I’m assuming that due to the limited space available on a runabout, and the fact that the entire crew seems to be needed on the surface, that we see it regularly because a more automated system is required.
I would suspect that the larger ships are capable of doing it, but they have crew do it manually in case something goes wrong.
Anyway, what would transporter techs do all day? Oh big ship can do automated transports like site to site transports and you hit the nail on the head on the safety comment .
I thought about site to site transports after I posted.
Yes, you are correct that they were used to both transport within a ship and to other vessels/planets.
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:57 pm
First off - it's "Trekkies" not Trekkers - you visigoth
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Even more curious - why do they leave the bridge to go to the transporter room? Why not just transport from the bridge to the planet? For that matter - why waste all the space on corridors? Just transport wherever you need to go.
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 4:59 pm
(August 13, 2019 at 4:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (August 13, 2019 at 4:54 pm)Amarok Wrote: Oh big ship can do automated transports like site to site transports and you hit the nail on the head on the safety comment .
I thought about site to site transports after I posted.
Yes, you are correct that they were used to both transport within a ship and to other vessels/planets. Also I have a theory that most people feel more comfortable with a human in charge of reassembling their molecules rather then a computer .
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm
(August 13, 2019 at 4:59 pm)Amarok Wrote: (August 13, 2019 at 4:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I thought about site to site transports after I posted.
Yes, you are correct that they were used to both transport within a ship and to other vessels/planets. Also I have a theory that most people feel more comfortable with a human in charge of reassembling their molecules rather then a computer .
Reg Barclay might not agree...
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 5:02 pm
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Quote: Even more curious - why do they leave the bridge to go to the transporter room? Why not just transport from the bridge to the planet? For that matter - why waste all the space on corridors? Just transport wherever you need to go.
Because you aren't transported to the planet directly your transported through the transporter to the planet . So either way your going there .
(August 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (August 13, 2019 at 4:59 pm)Amarok Wrote: Also I have a theory that most people feel more comfortable with a human in charge of reassembling their molecules rather then a computer .
Reg Barclay might not agree... Yeah but Reg is an odd duck
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RE: Question For Trekkers
August 13, 2019 at 5:12 pm
When they transport I assume that the system records their molecular structure to enable it to re create it at the destination. If they are killed, why not re create them from the recording? It's not a transport system, it's an imortality system!
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