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The code that is DNA
#71
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The first link Simon Moon provided makes the very salient point that a code is a symbol for another symbol. Adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine are names/symbols/words that represent those nucleotides. If you make an acronym out of those words like AGCT, that's a symbol for the words for the nucleotides. THAT is a code, a symbol for other symbols.

True...

But the the nucleotides themselves, in the form of DNA are not a code.

If DNA is a code, then so is H20.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
#72
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 1:43 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(December 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The first link Simon Moon provided makes the very salient point that a code is a symbol for another symbol. Adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine are names/symbols/words that represent those nucleotides. If you make an acronym out of those words like AGCT, that's a symbol for the words for the nucleotides. THAT is a code, a symbol for other symbols.

True...

But the the nucleotides themselves, in the form of DNA are not a code.

If DNA is a code, then so is H20.

I asked him to explain the DNA molecule to me by his own words, not a wiki link. He needs to know what he is talking about. I tingle in antecipation.
#73
RE: The code that is DNA
So you claim to know the mind of God and that he intended to make perfect world and thus perfect DNA? Imperfections are explained away in the Bible. Is the code of any OS perfect? No but guess what? It’s still a code.
It’s the sequence of nucleotides that is not
random. Did the decoding aspect of the system (rna transport) evolve simultaneously as the formulation of nucleotide sequence? Coincidence?

It’s 10+ against one here, do you really expect me to reply to each post?
#74
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 2:35 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: So you claim to know the mind of God and that he intended to make perfect world and thus perfect DNA? Imperfections are explained away in the Bible. Is the code of any OS perfect? No but guess what? It’s still a code.
It’s the sequence of nucleotides that is not
random. Did the decoding aspect of the system (rna transport) evolve simultaneously as the formulation of nucleotide sequence? Coincidence?

It’s 10+ against one here, do you really expect me to reply to each post?

As a fellow atheist, you should know better.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
#75
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 2:35 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: So you claim to know the mind of God and that he intended to make perfect world and thus perfect DNA? Imperfections are explained away in the Bible. Is the code of any OS perfect? No but guess what? It’s still a code.
It’s the sequence of nucleotides that is not
random. Did the decoding aspect of the system (rna transport) evolve simultaneously as the formulation of nucleotide sequence? Coincidence?

It’s 10+ against one here, do you really expect me to reply to each post?

The mind of god: empty.

Fictional characters don’t have minds.
Dying to live, living to die.
#76
RE: The code that is DNA
Quote: Imperfections are explained away in the Bible

This bit's especially cute.  I'm sure we'll find the answer in Paul's Epistle to the Crickonioans.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
#77
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 2:35 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: So you claim to know the mind of God and that he intended to make perfect world and thus perfect DNA? Imperfections are explained away in the Bible. Is the code of any OS perfect? No but guess what? It’s still a code.
It’s the sequence of nucleotides that is not
random. Did the decoding aspect of the system (rna transport) evolve simultaneously as the formulation of nucleotide sequence? Coincidence?

It’s 10+ against one here, do you really expect me to reply to each post?

When you're dealing with a made up entity (yep, man made god) it's easy to make up explanations/stories that appear to address irrational aspects of the claim. 

That's why unicorns poop rainbow ice cream.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
#78
RE: The code that is DNA
Someone referenced God in an earlier post so I responded , now you say there’s no God and I shouldn’t have responded?
Also ignoring my main point, good job
#79
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Someone referenced God in an earlier post so I responded , now you say there’s no God and I shouldn’t have responded?
Also ignoring my main point, good job

You are the one evading all the answers, so please explain to me the DesoxiriboNucleic Acid molecule, no wiki links, your own knowlege about it. I mean, to make the claims you do about it, you must have it as knowlege.
#80
RE: The code that is DNA
Ok that's the second time you've said DesoxiriboNucleic Acid.

It is Deoxyribonucleic Acid.

Sorry I had to, it was bugging me.



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