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Science is not Math!
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RE: Science is not Math!
(January 12, 2020 at 3:02 am)Haipule Wrote: K'den, I am an admitted theistic prick. But, I am not a scientist prick! I am not a completely stupid atheist claiming nothingness as truth! Or, an antitheist compete prick! At least agnosticism has a brain and I appreciate that. I am a stupid surfer from HB! But, I have a brain, eyes, hearing, touch, smell, taste.


How in the hell did science turn into math? As if Mother Nature has a calculator? That is just mental masturbation.


Really? Relativity? Dark Matter? What the fuck are you talking about?


Really? Black Holes? What: you have no concept of magnetism and space vs. counter space? Volume? A black hole is neither black nor a hole! And if someone wants me to say it from a complete stupid surfer sense, a black hole is the complete lack of magnetism-counter space. Because, without magnetism, there is no volume! No black, no hole!

What? Can you argue?

Really? Relativity? As if that crazy haired moron named Einstein knew shit about anything nature? Really? Really? Really? That idiot, like Sir Isaac Newton, actually believed in "gravity" as an autonomous force, now tensore, why? And some, then argue gravity as a fuckin' blanket? Time and space? Really? Is there really such thing as time and/or space?

One idiot here said that space is 99.999...empty vacuum. And, 95% energy. Really? How could it be both according to your math? Did you really have to go to school to be that stupid? The universe is 100% energy, including the emptiness you erroneously call "space"! Including the objects you call "mass". Mass is the byproduct of energy not--E=mc fuckin' squared! 


The speed of light does not exist! It is the rate of induction through a field. Does light slow down through glass? Yes! What is the rate of induction when it enters the glass? What is rate when it exits? Does it accelerate? NO! It is the same rate as it entered! Duh!

I love you guys but math does not explain what I see, hear, touch, smell, taste.

Right ! Science is not maths. Science uses maths to explain it's findings. Theism does not require math because it does not explain anything.
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#32
RE: Science is not Math!
At work.

(January 12, 2020 at 8:14 pm)Haipule Wrote: Hello and thank you. I'm not so confused. I'm just frustrated because no one seems to want to talk about what is real. Real is real, IT IS NOT AN OPINION! IT IS NOT CALCULOUS!

Really? Do you have any idea how hard it is to study things like magnetism, dielectrics and electricity without being communicated to me as fucking calculous? I don't read calculous! 


And then learn and talk to people who have no fucking idea what the fuck I'm talking about because no one told them that Einstein is an idiot? Calculous, to us laymen, is unnecessary when we talk about the conjugate nature of nature! Nature is complex; yes: not complicated--not math! Yet, we do not talk about the symphony of the concert that nature is! We just pick at it and pick at it! And we are going nowhere!

Without any understanding of magnetism and dielectric: we can't explain electricity! We then can't even explain ourselves! Like talking to a post!

Well.... I think of 'Math' as just another 'Language'.

It's syntax and such starts out simple enough.... but does get more complex and intricate the more one learns it.

As for magnetism? I just know it's intertwined/connected with electricity.

Black holes are due to gravity.

Cheers.
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#33
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Mathematics is the Queen of Science. You don't understand it, it's not Mathematic's problem. You have to beat your head on it until you get it. As has been said, "There is no royal road to mathematics". Speaking from personal experience, mathematics made my career in engineering and physics. Most of what I did depended on mathematics, every step of the way...complex double precision Fourier Series expansion, using everything including a CRAY Y-MP. NB: I won't explain what I did to anyone, they have to take the journey themselves.  Hmph
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#34
RE: Science is not Math!
(January 12, 2020 at 3:02 am)Haipule Wrote: K'den, I am an admitted theistic prick. But, I am not a scientist prick! I am not a completely stupid atheist claiming nothingness as truth! Or, an antitheist compete prick! At least agnosticism has a brain and I appreciate that. I am a stupid surfer from HB! But, I have a brain, eyes, hearing, touch, smell, taste.


How in the hell did science turn into math? As if Mother Nature has a calculator? That is just mental masturbation.


Really? Relativity? Dark Matter? What the fuck are you talking about?


Really? Black Holes? What: you have no concept of magnetism and space vs. counter space? Volume? A black hole is neither black nor a hole! And if someone wants me to say it from a complete stupid surfer sense, a black hole is the complete lack of magnetism-counter space. Because, without magnetism, there is no volume! No black, no hole!

What? Can you argue?

Really? Relativity? As if that crazy haired moron named Einstein knew shit about anything nature? Really? Really? Really? That idiot, like Sir Isaac Newton, actually believed in "gravity" as an autonomous force, now tensore, why? And some, then argue gravity as a fuckin' blanket? Time and space? Really? Is there really such thing as time and/or space?

One idiot here said that space is 99.999...empty vacuum. And, 95% energy. Really? How could it be both according to your math? Did you really have to go to school to be that stupid? The universe is 100% energy, including the emptiness you erroneously call "space"! Including the objects you call "mass". Mass is the byproduct of energy not--E=mc fuckin' squared! 


The speed of light does not exist! It is the rate of induction through a field. Does light slow down through glass? Yes! What is the rate of induction when it enters the glass? What is rate when it exits? Does it accelerate? NO! It is the same rate as it entered! Duh!

I love you guys but math does not explain what I see, hear, touch, smell, taste.

So what was your question?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#35
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Disclaimer: Haipule is not one of my cousins.
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#36
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Quote:I love you guys but math does not explain what I see, hear, touch, smell, taste.


Hearing can be explained by pressure waves in the air (measured mathematicaly in terms of amplitude and frequency) also chemicaly and physicaly  in terms of action potentials in the synapses of the nerves

Touch is similar but using nerve cells on the skin rather than the ear

Taste and smell are using cells which react to the shape of chemical molecules stimulating the nerves

"Biology is basicaly chemistry then to look close enough, Chemistry is basicaly physics when you look close enough, Physics is basicaly maths when you look close enough, maths is hard!"
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#37
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Calculus is easier to learn in terms of simple physics.  Specifically the relationships between position, speed, and acceleration of an object.  Try it that way.  My problem with it was remembering all the algebra or trig needed to reduce the problem to a solvable form.  I needed math to understand engineering classes, so I buckled down.  Try that too.

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#38
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Haipule, I get the sense that something's going on with you upstairs that would make me feel immoral for teasing you about these posts. Nonetheless, I have to say that your opening post is very insulting to atheists, whether any of us take you seriously enough to take it personally or not. It's one thing to have some mismatched gears, but another to take the time to type out a post in which you're knowingly insulting everyone in the room. I've never met anyone incapable of understanding when they're saying fuck you, so I don't believe your deficits excuse you from your rudeness.
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(January 12, 2020 at 6:54 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(January 12, 2020 at 4:27 am)Haipule Wrote: I am not involved with drugs. I am an alcoholic. Gin man! I am punk, 'gabba, gabba hey' and not hippy. I'm only 60. I'm not old enough to be a hippy. Then why did you grow your hair? For one, it is pretty, for two, Homo's don't like the way I look: Self defense!

I traveled the world for years, I had to make myself look as completely hideous as I could to them, because predator homo's are just that: Predators! Ask a female about predator  males! Some are predatory and some are not!

Yet, the morning will come: yes! But, I'm still the same--right? I'm still a punk and NOT a fag!

Where were you hanging out?
Based myself in Florida went all over Europe and the Caribbean. Loved Spain, Italy, Ireland, Malta and Dominica. Back home on Maui. There's no place like home--I looked!

(January 13, 2020 at 12:57 pm)Shell B Wrote: Haipule, I get the sense that something's going on with you upstairs that would make me feel immoral for teasing you about these posts. Nonetheless, I have to say that your opening post is very insulting to atheists, whether any of us take you seriously enough to take it personally or not. It's one thing to have some mismatched gears, but another to take the time to type out a post in which you're knowingly insulting everyone in the room. I've never met anyone incapable of understanding when they're saying fuck you, so I don't believe your deficits excuse you from your rudeness.
I have no excuse and I apologize.
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Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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