Behading

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ok. But did you really think you were the only person who knows who she was?

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

So, it's pathetic to dress her in Arab clothes, replace the background with a desert, and make her hold curved sword instead? and bring some Pakistani to speak instead? and no women ?

Wasn't that what all the "war on terror" shit about?
Decline? your mind, though,,

It's fictional 

and what all the bots' in this forum -and elsewhere- post?
A poor pakistani,,with curved sword,,doing exactly what Oren Ishi does.,,,exactly..

It's fictional 

So you admit with relations to American terrorists?

Knowing soldiers does not make you a terrorist 

I thank you for your patience Brian, so here is my goal from posting such stuff.

Too be stupid apparently 

Many westerners -and I talk from an outside perspective- see themselves as a master race. It's a complex that led a westerner here to defend the guillotine as a more humane invention than normal beheading !

Because by contrast it is more humane .That has nothing to do being the "master race " lol . And did i mention we don't behead people anymore because though more humane then swords or axes it's still barbaric to behead someone period .Which is why we don't do it anymore 

Imagine the shock I would feel for hearing such thing: these people -westerners- are ready to call their own killing style more "humane" but ours -Muslims- as more savage !!

Because by contrast it is more humane .That has nothing to do being the "master race " lol . And did i mention we don't behead people anymore because though more humane then swords or axes it's still barbaric to behead someone period .Which is why we don't do it anymore 

Ignoring that the guillotine stayed in use until Europe was clear of bandits and thieves -guillotine stayed in use until the 1970s- !!!

And that 40 years ago . It's not in use anymore . No one ignored this they addressed it in the other thread you just ignore what we write 

Imagine the shock of seeing westerners ready to kill their criminals then raise the white flag after the massacre and claim to be "non-killing saints" !!

Adresseed above no one here has condoned what your accusing us of .Your simply being dishonest 

How disgusting, or let me say "how cunning !"

How delusional 

And tomorrow, as we know history repeats itself, the west will return to use the guillotines !!!

Nope it's banned and it's staying banned 

1970s ! never forget that date ! the west kept chopping heads until 50 years ago !!!!

Yup 50 years ago as in NOT NOW nor will return because we don't behead people anymore unlike the middle 

I respect people like you, but when would your people take off their cloak and show their real skin? 50 years is a very short while.

No it isn't and there is no cloak no one here has condoned beheading 

I show from western movies what the average westerner sees and loves

FICTIONAL MOVIES WERE NO ONE REALLY DIES !!!!!!!

I grew up like one, so I very much know.

Don't compare you sick desires for bloodlust to our grasp of what is fiction and what is reality

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Look, you are so drunk and up your high horse, you forgot that all the weapons used to kill my people were made by your tax money, sold through your tax money so you can eat and fart all day.

Arab government fund terror groups with tax dollars prove to me none of yours are going to them or prove to me your tax dollars aren't going to your military being used to kill . Oh and your contradicting yourself you said America was a terrorists group but not Americans .Well guess what most Americans pay taxes so i guess you are a liar then 

lol you're so drunk

And your just an idiot

[Brian37]

Ok. But did you really think you were the only person who know who she was?

Boru

Come on man really?

Outside historians and Germans and Jews, how many people do you think out of a survey of 100 if you walked down the street and asked a random person who she was, how many do you think in our Jerry Springer, Duck Dynasty, WWE age would know?

Of course you aren't the  only one. But don't tell me a vast majority know who she is.

Leni might show up as a Jeopardy question, but she sure as hell isn't going to show up as a topic on Jerry Springer or Judge Judy.

[The Architect Of Fate]

And this is beheading in real world - only still done by Muslims

To be fair they could be and this gathering might be forced by he band of heavily armed maniacs 

So let's be careful not engage in the same kind of generalizing winter engaging in

[Brian37]

I am one of the few here that has tried for a long time to be understanding of where you live, and that you don't like the government you live under. I have tried desperately to get you to understand that our governments and religions respectively not getting along, does not make everyone evil who lives under each of those governments. But when you post stupid shit like this, you make it extremely hard.

LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR, I hate our President, and we have our right wing nuts too. But it is just fucking patently absurd to equate a movie to reality.

I am very afraid of the damage Trump is doing and continues to do here in America, and the sane here are going to do our best to vote that sick fuck out of office. But that does not make your country perfect by proxy.

You have terrorists and we have terrorist and? That does not make 100% of any population terrorists. It unfortunately means our species can be and is tribal for no damned good reason.

I am more afraid of getting assaulted at a grocery store by a white Trump voter at a grocery store I I tell them to keep their distance than I am of a Muslim living here.

But you have seriously lost all sense of reality if you think a mere movie reflects reality.

I thank you for your patience Brian, so here is my goal from posting such stuff.

Many westerners -and I talk from an outside perspective- see themselves as a master race. It's a complex that led a westerner here to defend the guillotine as a more humane invention than normal beheading !

Imagine the shock I would feel for hearing such thing: these people -westerners- are ready to call their own killing style more "humane" but ours -Muslims- as more savage !!
Ignoring that the guillotine stayed in use until Europe was clear of bandits and thieves -guillotine stayed in use until the 1970s- !!!

Imagine the shock of seeing westerners ready to kill their criminals then raise the white flag after the massacre and claim to be "non-killing saints" !!

How disgusting, or let me say "how cunning !"

And tomorrow, as we know history repeats itself, the west will return to use the guillotines !!!
1970s ! never forget that date ! the west kept chopping heads until 50 years ago !!!!

I respect people like you, but when would your people take off their cloak and show their real skin? 50 years is a very short while.

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I show from western movies what the average westerner sees and loves
I grew up like one, so I very much know.

"Master Race"?  Hitler thought that at one time, and the fucker who sold the idea committed suicide in a bunker in 1945.

FYI Christianity is not a "race", neither is "Islam" or "Jew" or "Buddhist" or "Hindu" or even "atheist".

In our species, there are only religions, politics and social norms we buy into. 

There are black Christians, white Christians, Korean Christians, Japanese Christians, Chinese Christians. There are also Arab Muslims, Chinese Muslims, and white American Muslims. There are Chinese Buddhists, Japanese Buddhists, Tibet Buddhists. There are Irish Catholics, Irish Protestants and Irish atheists. There are also black atheists, Arab atheists, India atheists, and Mexican atheists.

There is no master race, never has been, never will be. 

YES  we do have a few assholes here, far too many, who want America to be a white dominated country. But please, you tell me how well I would be treated where you live as pale as I am, not speaking your language and most certainly not believing what you do? You'd get shit if you lived here for sure, but between your country and mine, you'd have a better chance at being able to say what you want, and get justice if someone hurt you. And if you lived here and someone hurt you when you were not physically attacking them I don't know anyone here(at least at this website) that would not defend you.

YES we hate the claims you make. But we would not behead you  for making claims we call bullshit. As an atheist however, I lived where you did, and merely said "Allah does not exist" I would risk arrest or mob violence at a far higher rate than if you lived here and said Allah did exist.

There is a HUGE difference between blasting your claims, not liking you personally and wanting you dead. And if you spent enough time paying attention you'd know even between us western atheists on this website, we don't always agree and we do butt heads between ourselves.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ok. But did you really think you were the only person who know who she was?

Boru

Come on man really?

Outside historians and Germans and Jews, how many people do you think out of a survey of 100 if you walked down the street and asked a random person who she was, how many do you think in our Jerry Springer, Duck Dynasty, WWE age would know?

Of course you aren't the  only one. But don't tell me a vast majority know who she is.

Leni might show up as a Jeopardy question, but she sure as hell isn't going to show up as a topic on Jerry Springer or Judge Judy.

I never said she would be known by the majority of people.  But what YOU said was: 

Glad to know I am not the only one who knows who she is.

The clear implication being that you didn't think there was anyone besides you who know who she was.  That kinda arrogant, don't you think?

Boru

[Brian37]

@ Atlass33   Quote you "When will "my people"?(Referring to the west and America)." ..........I could ask you the same, and that is the problem, not you personally, not me personally, but our species. There is only "one people" and that is our human race.

How about you treat everyone as individuals. I am working as hard as I can on my end to do foster more of the same attitude here in the west. Seems like both of us have our work cut out for us in an unfortunately tribal species.

[Rhizomorph13]

When will "my people"? I could ask you the same, and that is the problem, not you personally, not me personally, but our species. There is only "one people" and that is our human race.

How about you treat everyone as individuals. I am working as hard as I can on my end to do foster more of the same attitude here in the west. Seems like both of us have our work cut out for us in an unfortunately tribal species.

Nobody said "my people" you git!

[Rev. Rye]

Yup. His posts have all the laughs of a Leni Riefenstahl film festival and twice the whimsy.

Boru

Glad to know I am not the only one who knows who she is. And not because I love her, I hate her. But because history is important to remember even when it is harsh and ugly. 

Leni unfortunately was brilliant in playing upon imagery and emotion and that helped lead a desperate nation to follow a monster.

My opinion on Riefenstahl are... mixed, to say the least. On the one hand, she creates images striking enough that they resonate to this day (remember that final scene in A New Hope where Princess Leia is handing out the medals? That was a direct ripoff of a similar scene in Triumph of the Will, and surprisingly, it’s one George Lucas isn’t willing to fuck with, besides compositing some soldiers who were previously mattes). By virtually any metric, she was one of the first (if not the first) great female directors, and there still aren’t many women who’ve reached her heights.

On the other hand, she used her talents working with the fucking Nazis. Admittedly, from what I’ve been able to figure out, it was probably more out of a ruthless careerism than anything else (look at how she shoots Jesse Owens in Olympia), and when shit got real (specifically after she witnessed a war crime, specifically the massacre of Jewish civilians at Konskie on 12 September 1939,) she contented herself with working on Tiefland, a largely apolitical film that just happened to benefit from Nazi slave labour. And regardless of her true intentions when allying with the Nazis (I’m told that the earliest connection with her and, any political ideology, really, was her Bitterness about the failure of her directorial debut The Blue Light and her decision to blame it on the Jews for reasons I’m sure must have made sense to her), in the end, she made her greatest fame on the most evil politicians in history, and helped legitimize it in the eyes of millions. And even though she lived to be 100, she never really came to terms with that. She’s such an unreliable narrator that Juergen Trichborn’s biography of her (which I highly recommend) actually stated that he had to ignore as much of her writings as possible and not collaborate with her just to get a truthful picture of the woman (and she was still alive, bear in mind.)

And another factor that complicates this even further, not only as a cinephile and amateur German historian, but as a foot fetishist:



As you can imagine, seeing that she was evidently comfortable enough going barefoot that she could climb mountains barefoot without even flinching got me more than a little bit große sprung myself. A bit awkward when you consider this was part of a documentary trying (and ultimately failing) to get to the core of her issues. Stupid Sexy Nazi Collaborator!

Umm... apparently, according to the IMDB trivia page, she wasn’t hardcore enough to keep from bloodying her bare feet (and misfortunes to women’s feet are only sexy when they”re tough enough to handle it), so maybe that dulls the dick dissonance?

[Brian37]

Atlass said "your people"  t.. Yes, I should have said that instead.