The Struggle to do Good

[brewer]

[Abaddon_ire]

I believe the OP is convinced that masturbation is sinful. I would completely disagree with that and find no Biblical or spiritual justification for it. Objectifying women and lusting after them is though, which is probably more precisely the sin. Glad you don’t want to objectify women anymore OP, that morality has Biblical foundations and is commonly a societal morality  as well.

The commonly cited biblical prohibition on masturbation is Onan in Genesis 38.

It is one of the more spectacularly fucked up tales in the bible.

Even then, it does not condemn masturbation anyway.

[Little lunch]

What I want to know is exactly why do you feel guilt about masturbating? What is there to feel guilt about?

I feel guilty sometimes but they rarely wake up.

[qb1base]

Pornography, masturbation and the desire to get your dick wet all come from Satan! The only real cure is what the apostle Paul recommends: castrate yourself for God!

[tackattack]

@Abaddon I’m aware of the Genesis pull out verses as a common notation, and agree they don’t address masturbation.

[Abaddon_ire]

What I want to know is exactly why do you feel guilt about masturbating? What is there to feel guilt about?

I feel guilty sometimes but they rarely wake up.

Really? Some of them wake up?

You need to adjust the dosage.

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@Abaddon I’m aware of the Genesis pull out verses as a common notation,  and agree they don’t address masturbation.

I know that, I simply thought that the actual reference might be of use to others.

Onan's "sin" was not masturbation in any way at all. His "sin" was declining to impregnate his brothers widow. A concept that is rather creepy in the first place. If I had a brother that died, porking his bereaved widow would be the last thing on my mind.

[brewer]

Pornography, masturbation and the desire to get your dick wet all come from Satan! The only real cure is what the apostle Paul recommends: castrate yourself for God!

The solution for him is self flagellation. However, he may be judged on the type of implementation he chooses.

[brokenreflector]

If societal pressures or my upbringing did not produce this urge, then what or who produced it?

Why do you think there aren't societal pressures to make you feel ashamed for your masturbation? Because society is full of Christian censors who affect people even if they are not Christians. I mean just take movies which are under MPAA which was preceded by the Catholic League of Decency and they can implant in you various Christian taboos like that female body is shameful and not to mention masturbation. For instance, in the documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" Kevin Smith says how in the movie "Jersey Girl" there was a scene where Liv Tyler' Character mentions how she masturbates two times a day and that MPAA slapped R rating on the movie so he had to remove that scene from a movie because they want to send the message to the public how "decent people don't do that."

So there are stigmas in the society that flow from religions.

First, I never mentioned masturbation in my original post, so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, after careful introspection, I can honestly say that this urge to not look at pornographic material isn't from society. In fact, society seems to be trying to influence me to ignore this urge that I have. The media is full of sexual content, innuendo, and people telling others that there's nothing wrong with pornography or masturbation (since you guys brought that up).

Let me add however that this is my own experience. I'm sure there are others who have been brought up in very religious households or who were raised during a time when sexual promiscuity, porn, and masturbation were considered morally wrong.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Why do you think there aren't societal pressures to make you feel ashamed for your masturbation? Because society is full of Christian censors who affect people even if they are not Christians. I mean just take movies which are under MPAA which was preceded by the Catholic League of Decency and they can implant in you various Christian taboos like that female body is shameful and not to mention masturbation. For instance, in the documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" Kevin Smith says how in the movie "Jersey Girl" there was a scene where Liv Tyler' Character mentions how she masturbates two times a day and that MPAA slapped R rating on the movie so he had to remove that scene from a movie because they want to send the message to the public how "decent people don't do that."

So there are stigmas in the society that flow from religions.

First, I never mentioned masturbation in my original post, so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, after careful introspection, I can honestly say that this urge to not look at pornographic material isn't from society. In fact, society seems to be trying to influence me to ignore this urge that I have. The media is full of sexual content, innuendo, and people telling others that there's nothing wrong with pornography or masturbation (since you guys brought that up).

Let me add however that this is my own experience. I'm sure there are others who have been brought up in very religious households or who were raised during a time when sexual promiscuity, porn, and masturbation were considered morally wrong.

If you’re watching porn and not masturbating, you’re doing it wrong.

Boru

[GUBU]

I used to view pornography, but I stopped because of God's prompting, and I believe this prompting, pull, or urge can be used as evidence for God's existence. I didn't grow up in a Christian home. I didn't even grow up in a religious home. And I've grown up during a time where pornography is no longer seen as a taboo. So, where did this very powerful urge to not view pornography come from? I've always believed in God, but this urge didn't come in the form of, "Do not look at this or you're going to Hell," or "Do not look at this because God says so!" This urge was voiceless, foundational, and powerful.

Lad something inside your head made you stop and you're attributing it to a fictional being? You must really have low self-esteem.