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The Struggle to do Good
#21
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:51 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Brokenrecord is broken.

We've heard this all before.

That's what flat-earthers say. You're like a flat-earther.
  Hehe
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#22
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 2:46 am)chimp3 Wrote: Nothing! I did not mean to insult. There is nothing wrong with self pleasure! Keep on!

Why are you personally insulting me though? Are you angry?
Angry? No! Just having fun!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#23
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:55 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 2:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote:

Why are you personally insulting me though? Are you angry?
Angry? No! Just having fun!

You have fun personally insulting people?

Alright.
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#24
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:51 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Brokenrecord is broken.

Wait?

I thought it was Brokenreflector?

Is there another one?

Razz 

Not at work.
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#25
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:58 am)brokenreflector Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 2:55 am)chimp3 Wrote: Angry? No! Just having fun!

You have fun personally insulting people?

Alright.

Lighthearted fun is far less damaging than the condemnation your god provides. Lighten up!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#26
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 3:06 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 2:58 am)brokenreflector Wrote: You have fun personally insulting people?

Alright.

Lighthearted fun is far less damaging than the condemnation your god provides. Lighten up!

 Personally insulting people for fun isn't "lighthearted fun." It's just evil.
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#27
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 3:07 am)brokenreflector Wrote:
(May 31, 2020 at 3:06 am)chimp3 Wrote: Lighthearted fun is far less damaging than the condemnation your god provides. Lighten up!

 Personally insulting people for fun isn't "lighthearted fun." It's just evil.

No! Eternally condemning someone for beating off is evil!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#28
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm)brokenreflector Wrote: If societal pressures or my upbringing did not produce this urge, then what or who produced it?

Why do you think there aren't societal pressures to make you feel ashamed for your masturbation? Because society is full of Christian censors who affect people even if they are not Christians. I mean just take movies which are under MPAA which was preceded by the Catholic League of Decency and they can implant in you various Christian taboos like that female body is shameful and not to mention masturbation. For instance, in the documentary "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" Kevin Smith says how in the movie "Jersey Girl" there was a scene where Liv Tyler' Character mentions how she masturbates two times a day and that MPAA slapped R rating on the movie so he had to remove that scene from a movie because they want to send the message to the public how "decent people don't do that."

So there are stigmas in the society that flow from religions.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#29
RE: The Struggle to do Good
(May 31, 2020 at 2:50 am)brokenreflector Wrote: No. And what you've done here is strawman my argument. That's not good practice by the way. It's better to steelman somebody's argument before responding to it. That's much more effective and persuasive.

What I've actually done is list all of the possible causes of this urge: nature, societal pressures, upbringing, etc.; and if the origin of this urge isn't any of these things, particularly not from nature, then the origin is by definition transcendental or metaphysical.

Stop mislabeling things as logical fallacies.

I was not strawmanning, because I was extrapolating from what you were saying, not telling you what you were saying. Obviously you think you've exhausted all of your options other than God, but my position is that you have not exhausted the naturalistic explanations. The human brain is extremely complicated, so to pinpoint where your urge came from is next to impossible with our current understanding of brains.

To turn you currently weak argument into a strong one, you'd have to first exhaustively list every single possible naturalistic force that would lead to you stopping your behavior. No "etc." would be allowed. You have to demonstrate that every single force of nature (of which all have not even been discovered) to even think of bringing in a supernatural force as an explanation. Once every item on your list is proven to be an inadequate explanation for your behavior, you'd then have to prove that every combination of them wouldn't lead to such a behavior. Once you're done with this, then a supernatural explanation is warranted. You'd then need to demonstrate that such a supernatural force exists. And there you go, you'll have a pretty good piece of evidence for a god. That is an extraordinary amount of work, but necessary in order to create an actual piece of evidence for such an extraordinary claim.

With that being said, you could just use Occam's razor. Is it more likely that something (or somethings) is hiding within that "etc." that caused you to stop and you haven't figured out what it is yet, or that a supernatural being nudged you in that direction?
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#30
RE: The Struggle to do Good
Maybe you quit looking at porn because your testicles quit working and you now have less sex drive than a doorknob.

....

It's a more likely explaination than "The guy who created the universe has a special intetest in my masturbation frequency."
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