Irresponsible God

[Emporion]

"God has his reasons".

Reason #1: He's a prick. ( Just read the OT)

Reason #2: He thinks that allowing his creations to kill him for saving their sorry asses is the proper act. ( Just read the NT)

[KichigaiNeko]

Reason #3
And just who IS this godperson anyway??

[Justtristo]

It often appears that religious people ascribe all manner of good things to God yet many likewise deny God as responsible for events we might characterize as harmful or bad.

Should a God actually have set the universe in motion, is this supposed God responsible for anything?

Is such a God responsible for all that we consider bad? Can such a God in the same vein be responsible for all that we consider good?

You have asked a deeply challenging question to at least Christians who believe in the absolute, totally sovereign of god. The question is why an absolute, totally sovereign god would allow even those who follow him to suffer. This flies in the face of what Jesus in the gospels talked about which were the following; firstly, if you just have a little faith you can move mountains and secondly, god will provide everything you need.

[Edwardo Piet]

God can do anything logically possible. If loads of horrible things happen in the world, He does not fail to prevent those things, it's just that the existence of things being any better at those exact moments isn't logically possible.

[Emporion]

God can do anything logically possible. If loads of horrible things happen in the world, He does not fail to prevent those things, it's just that the existence of things being any better at those exact moments isn't logically possible.

In conlusion, we are gods.

[downbeatplumb]

I saw a news item a few years ago. A group of miners where trapped. The familes were told (wrongly) that all the miners had survived.
Cue all the relatives 'thanking god' etc.
Only to be told five minutes later that, in fact, all the miners were dead.

At this news they just all went quiet.

Using their own logic they should have blamed god but didnt, at least not right away.

A typical example of 'confirmation bias'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[Thor]

Not only that: he's also all-powerful and all-loving. But he was all-loving, how could he possibly not using his all-powerfulness to save his creation from such immense suffering. The problem of evil was one of the most convincing reasons to turn me away from belief. It makes utterly no sense. Believers so delude themselves that they can't see these glaring inconsistencies in God's supposed character.

The notion of "God" as a benevolent, loving, compassionate and forgiving being is completely contradicted by this deity's own actions. Drowning children in a flood, killing the first born as punishment for a pharoah's inaction, turning people into salt for looking when they're not supposed to, chasing a naieve young couple out of paradise for eating from a forbidden tree (and denying a life in paradise to EVERYONE).... these are the actions of a petulant, angry and vengeful being. Not what we would expect from a loving and forgiving one.

Of course, the believers delude themselves by rationalizing this undeniable contradiction. They must if they're going to continue believing. Their moronic, simplistic answers satisfy only themselves. Sort of like when you tell a six year old that the Tooth Fairy magically takes away a lost tooth and leaves money.

[Emporion]

Tooth Fairy magically takes away a lost tooth and leaves money.

That is supposed to be good. What do you want to do with the lost tooth?

[ozgoat]

Reason #3
And just who IS this godperson anyway??

Non-existent, of course!

[KichigaiNeko]

God can do anything logically possible. If loads of horrible things happen in the world, He does not fail to prevent those things, it's just that the existence of things being any better at those exact moments isn't logically possible.

In conlusion, we are gods.

Yes dear ...we know this...and??