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Who was Jesus?
#11
RE: Who was Jesus?
How about starting with the most potent and profound symbolic expression of the human condition?
<insert profound quote here>
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#12
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 6:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: How about starting with the most potent and profound symbolic expression of the human condition?
How do you feel about Communion?
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#13
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 7:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 6:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: How about starting with the most potent and profound symbolic expression of the human condition?
How do you feel about Communion?

What you mean like "canabalistic child sacrifice"?!? Yes! the scandal is part of the appeal.
<insert profound quote here>
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RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 7:41 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 7:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote: How do you feel about Communion?

What you mean like "canabalistic child sacrifice"?!? Yes! the scandal part of the appeal.
What? Wacky 

That's not what I mean. I mean the symbolic eating of bread and drinking of wine, to remember Jesus' sacrifice, in a physical way. It's a nice little spiritual token, for those who can tolerate going to church.
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#15
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 7:58 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 7:41 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: What you mean like "canabalistic child sacrifice"?!? Yes! the scandal part of the appeal.
What? Wacky 

That's not what I mean. I mean the symbolic eating of bread and drinking of wine, to remember Jesus' sacrifice, in a physical way. It's a nice little spiritual token, for those who can tolerate going to church.

Neo is just being facetious. I bet he more agrees with the way you just put it.
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#16
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 3:29 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Was Jesus a self-righteous prick, or just a weird guy with some good ideas?

Are there other choices?
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#17
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 9:35 pm)sdelsolray Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 3:29 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Was Jesus a self-righteous prick, or just a weird guy with some good ideas?

Are there other choices?
Yes......I tend to think in duality, so I phrased the question as a duality. However, feel free to express whatever it is Jesus means to you.
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#18
RE: Who was Jesus?
Is OP a pseudo-intellectual snob, or just a weird girl with ideas about Jesus?
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#19
RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 7:58 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 7:41 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: What you mean like "canabalistic child sacrifice"?!? Yes! the scandal part of the appeal.
What? Wacky 

That's not what I mean. I mean the symbolic eating of bread and drinking of wine, to remember Jesus' sacrifice, in a physical way. It's a nice little spiritual token, for those who can tolerate going to church.

Billions of Catholics believe they are actually EATING JESUS. "Body, blood, soul and divinity". It's not "symbolic" for them.
The problem isn't really "Who was Jesus" (if there even was one) ... one of the big problems that isn't discussed much, is that the things that are said about what he preached about are the concerns of late 1st Century Judaism, not early 1st Century, so what we have is coming from the wrong end of that, ... but the problems are also in what is *said* (in the gospels) that people "believed about him" ... as that is what the gospels are, ... statements or proclamations of belief, and they're all over the place, even the 4, to say nothing about the other hundreds of gospels.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn
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RE: Who was Jesus?
(August 15, 2021 at 9:45 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Is OP a pseudo-intellectual snob, or just a weird girl with ideas about Jesus?
Definitely, easily, the second one. Great
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