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Poll: Who should use science to support their beliefs?
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Everyone
58.82%
10 58.82%
Atheists only
5.88%
1 5.88%
Theists only
0%
0 0%
Other
35.29%
6 35.29%
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The Ownership of Science
RE: The Ownership of Science
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Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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RE: The Ownership of Science
@Spongebob

Do you have your own personal cosmology?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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One of the primary characteristics of hoaxers and promoters of pseudo-science is to accuse everyone else of being a shill for something they don't trust. Just sayin'.

(November 3, 2021 at 9:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(November 3, 2021 at 9:22 pm)Ahriman Wrote: My own personal cosmology works pretty well too. You just gotta believe.

Why should we believe your cosmology as opposed to someone else's?

P.S.  Sometimes I get the impression that you are just a troll, and are not a serious participant of this community.

Same.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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RE: The Ownership of Science
@Spongebob

So you agree that science is not the only valid form of intellectual conjecturation?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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(November 3, 2021 at 9:22 pm)Do Ahriman Wrote:
(November 3, 2021 at 9:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Because it works.
My own personal cosmology works pretty well too. You just gotta believe.

You mean it works for you.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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(November 3, 2021 at 9:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: @Spongebob

So you agree that science is not the only valid form of intellectual conjecturation?

if by validity you mean even the slightest amount more likely to be right than any pure bullshit, then there is no other form of valid intellectual conjecture.  all other forms are 100% bullshit.
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(November 3, 2021 at 10:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(November 3, 2021 at 9:22 pm)Do Ahriman Wrote: My own personal cosmology works pretty well too. You just gotta believe.

You mean it works for you.
Well I suppose it would work for anyone who wanted to adhere to it.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: The Ownership of Science
(November 3, 2021 at 9:43 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 3, 2021 at 9:35 pm)Spongebob Wrote: You are a complete faaaking idiot!  No, an embarrassment to idiots every where.
Shill for science harder.

better than shilling for anything else.
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RE: The Ownership of Science
(November 3, 2021 at 10:01 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(November 3, 2021 at 9:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: @Spongebob

So you agree that science is not the only valid form of intellectual conjecturation?

if by validity you mean conjecture is more likely to be right than any pure bullshit that there is no other form of valid intellectual conjecture.  all other forms are 100% bullshit.
So you're saying everyone in the world who doesn't put science above all else - which is quite a lot of people - are all wrong?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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(November 3, 2021 at 9:52 pm)Spongebob Wrote: One of the primary characteristics of hoaxers and promoters of pseudo-science is to accuse everyone else of being a shill for something they don't trust.  Just sayin'.

Gamers are the worst about this. There is an online card game I play, so (of course) there are theories flying around about the broken/rigged shuffle algorithm. But anyone who scrutinizes those claims or questions them is a "fanboi" or a "shill." Like... I never once gave a fuck about the integrity of this card game or the shuffler. I was just questioning claims.

If anthropologists want to learn about the origins of religious beliefs, all they need to do is create an online card game with a working shuffler. Then observe forum posts about that game. I think an unknown causal chain + apophenia are the primary ingredients for religious belief.
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