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Painkillers.
#11
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 10:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(May 23, 2022 at 10:35 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: Wrong the nerve pain does play major role in a broken foot.
It also plays a big role in the pain from swollen joins.
However you think whatever you want to think.

Nerve pain and bone pain are two different things, Skippy.
Hell, if we’re talking a broken foot, the issue isn’t bone pain but bone fractures. And I don’t care how good your painkiller is, there is no fucking way a few pills are going to reset a broken bone.
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#12
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 10:41 pm)brewer Wrote:
(May 23, 2022 at 10:17 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: An appalling article there is plenty of evidence it is quite effective for nerve pain.

https://www.healthcaredive.com/press-rel...0pathology.

Do you even understand what small fiber nephropathy is, what disease it's associated with? Does not appear to be knee trauma.

Did you see that this article was backed/published by a pharma company?

https://www.newhope.com/ingredients/new-...athic-pain


I am not lying about how effective agmatine was on my friend. 
and for pete sake yes bone pain may be different to nerve pain but a broken bone can easily cause nerve pain which can be quite intense. Prove me wrong or if you want me to fill a post with links stating just that I will there is plenty of evidence for my argument out there. your just being pointlessly pedantic. yes It won't reset the bone hence why the boy was told to stop walking on it so much.
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#13
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 10:54 pm)highdimensionman Wrote:
(May 23, 2022 at 10:41 pm)brewer Wrote: Do you even understand what small fiber nephropathy is, what disease it's associated with? Does not appear to be knee trauma.

Did you see that this article was backed/published by a pharma company?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7071502/


I am not lying about how effective agmatine was on my friend. 
and for pete sake yes bone pain may be different to nerve pain but a broken bone can easily cause nerve pain which can be quite intense. Prove me wrong or if you want me to fill a post with links stating just that I will there is plenty of evidence for my argument out there. your just being pointlessly pedantic.

Testimony/anecdote is just that, testimony and anecdote. How do you know if the actual medical treatment worked but coincided with the timing of your supplement therapy?

Quick answer, you don't.

You might like to purchase some: https://peterpopoff.org/miraclewater/

I don't need to prove you wrong, you need to prove your claim right, with medical science. Again, testimony and anecdote won't cut it.

JFC, you're link is another pharma study. Of course they say it works.
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#14
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 9:51 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: If you want to stop people taking dodgy pain killers as addicts the doctor should try safer alternatives first and only turn to opiates when there is no other choice.

This is why doctors go to medical school; pharmacists, too! Not medical school, of course, but advanced degree programs in pharmacology.
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#15
RE: Painkillers.
people might not believe there doc is giving them bad choices to manage pain compared to the alternatives. Quite frankly when we're older I'll be the healthy young looking one taking no quacks pills. hot diggdy damn that's good enough for me.
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#16
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 11:01 pm)brewer Wrote:
(May 23, 2022 at 10:54 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7071502/


I am not lying about how effective agmatine was on my friend. 
and for pete sake yes bone pain may be different to nerve pain but a broken bone can easily cause nerve pain which can be quite intense. Prove me wrong or if you want me to fill a post with links stating just that I will there is plenty of evidence for my argument out there. your just being pointlessly pedantic.

Testimony/anecdote is just that, testimony and anecdote. How do you know if the actual medical treatment worked but coincided with the timing of your supplement therapy?

Quick answer, you don't.

You might like to purchase some: https://peterpopoff.org/miraclewater/

I don't need to prove you wrong, you need to prove your claim  right, with medical science. Again, testimony and anecdote won't cut it.

JFC, you're link is another pharma study. Of course they say it works.

you would compare genuine science to miracle water (typical bs) and as for pain anyone alternative to the doctor is a religious nut and i'm the idiot for fighting that institution so that we can make more healthy ethically guided use of the 20,000,000+ organic compounds found in nature(no just miracle water in nature) which isn't easy but you shouldn't just write nature off you are therefore the idiot I am tolerating. Why should I be bothered to proof something when no proof will ever satisfy such idiocy. there's plenty of evidence about bone and joint issues causing nerve pain and loads of evidence of agmatine being effective for nerve pain management. there is almost no counter evidence which there would be if it was all a fass.
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#17
RE: Painkillers.
I think I need some agmatine. I'm experiencing nerve pain. And it's a big nerve. And a big pain.
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#18
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 11:06 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: Quite frankly when we're older I'll be the healthy young looking one taking no quacks pills.

Yeah, but all the crack you're smoking now is gonna make dead certain you look like the Crypt Keeper at 30, if you last that long.

Good luck with that.
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#19
RE: Painkillers.
(May 24, 2022 at 12:51 am)Ravenshire Wrote:
(May 23, 2022 at 11:06 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: Quite frankly when we're older I'll be the healthy young looking one taking no quacks pills.

Yeah, but all the crack you're smoking now is gonna make dead certain you look like the Crypt Keeper at 30, if you last that long.

Good luck with that.

And no doubt with some less than functional limbs because he thought that trying to set a bone with an analgesic alone and maybe some incense was a good idea.
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#20
RE: Painkillers.
(May 23, 2022 at 9:51 pm)highdimensionman Wrote: Mid last year a friend of mine had knee joint problems. It got the point that he couldn't stand up for the agony. A doctor was called. All the doctor said was to keep rubbing some cream on his knees which obviously wasn't doing anything. Being an ex heroin addict opiates were out of the question and I don't even know why they sell something as crap as paracetamol. So anyway I bought him a tube of frankincense and gave him a few agmatine pills. the very next day after giving him this he was up and dancing. His mobility is fine now and he doesn't walk funny anymore. He has also finished his tube and doesn't need any more. 
Pharmaceutical pain killers cause a lot of endemic problems and are not even that well suited to the issues people have. If you want to stop people taking dodgy pain killers as addicts the doctor should try safer alternatives first and only turn to opiates when there is no other choice.

Cool story, bro. Interested in owning a bridge?
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